Re: "Against Rekeying"

2010-03-23 Thread Adam Back
In anon-ip (a zero-knowledge systems internal project) and cebolla [1] we provided forward-secrecy (aka backward security) using symmetric re-keying (key replaced by hash of previous key). (Backward and forward security as defined by Ross Anderson in [2]). But we did not try to do forward securit

Re: "Against Rekeying"

2010-03-23 Thread Jon Callas
> I'd be interested in hearing what people think on the topic. I'm a bit > skeptical of his position, partially because I think we have too little > experience with real world attacks on cryptographic protocols, but I'm > fairly open-minded at this point. I think that if anything, he doesn't go fa

Teaching Cryptography to 5th graders

2010-03-23 Thread Adam Aviv
I saw this post on Avi Rubin's blog today about his preparation for teaching a class of 5th graders cryptographic principles. http://avi-rubin.blogspot.com/2010/03/teaching-cryptography-to-5th-graders.html It is a nice post, and I thought the list would be interested despite the lack of eliptic c

Re: "Against Rekeying"

2010-03-23 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:42:38AM -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote: > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:21:01AM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > > Ekr has an interesting blog post up on the question of whether protocol > > support for periodic rekeying is a good or a bad thing: > > > > http://www.educatedg

Re: "Against Rekeying"

2010-03-23 Thread Bill Frantz
On 3/23/10 at 8:21 AM, pe...@piermont.com (Perry E. Metzger) wrote: > Ekr has an interesting blog post up on the question of whether protocol > support for periodic rekeying is a good or a bad thing: > > http://www.educatedguesswork.org/2010/03/against_rekeying.html > > I'd be interested in hear

Re: "Against Rekeying"

2010-03-23 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:21:01AM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > Ekr has an interesting blog post up on the question of whether protocol > support for periodic rekeying is a good or a bad thing: > > http://www.educatedguesswork.org/2010/03/against_rekeying.html > > I'd be interested in hearing

Re: Question regarding common modulus on elliptic curve cryptosystems

2010-03-23 Thread Peter Fairbrother
Sergio Lerner wrote: I looking for a public-key cryptosystem that allows commutation of the operations of encription/decryption for different users keys ( Ek(Es(m)) = Es(Ek(m)) ). Diffie-Hellman combined with Pohlig-Hellman can do what you describe. It's a variation on www.zenadsl6186.zen.

"Against Rekeying"

2010-03-23 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Ekr has an interesting blog post up on the question of whether protocol support for periodic rekeying is a good or a bad thing: http://www.educatedguesswork.org/2010/03/against_rekeying.html I'd be interested in hearing what people think on the topic. I'm a bit skeptical of his position, partial