Re: Why Blockbuster looks at your ID.

2005-07-09 Thread Edgar Danielyan
May we see the back of that envelope? Upgrade to EMV (chip  PIN) here
in UK reportedly costs around 1.1 billion pounds (around $1.9
billion), and that is simply an upgrade to the existing infrastructure
and only in a single country. To fundamentally change the system would
require tens of billions and a concerted effort of banks, the
associations and the merchants, with all the associated hidden agendas
and underwater currents. It would be too big an undertaking with an
uncomfortable C/B ratio, whereas $788m in losses is not that bad
keeping in mind the amounts involved...




On 7/8/05, Perry E. Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Dan Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Credit card fraud has gone *down* since 1992, and is actually falling:
 
  1992:  $2.6B
  2003:  $882M
  2004:  $788M
 
  We're on the order of 4.7 cents on the $100.
 
  http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2005/tc20050621_3238_tc024.htm
 
  If it's any consolation, I was rather surprised myself.
 
 I seem to have gotten that one drastically wrong. Thanks for the
 more accurate figures.
 
 A back of the envelope calculation makes me think that it is still
 more than enough money to provide a good incentive for a change in
 systems, though, especially when the cost of the anti-fraud measures
 needed at every part of the system are taken in to account.
 
 Perry


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Re: Bluetooth cracked further

2005-06-03 Thread Edgar Danielyan
 If you have a pair of bluetooth devices that are paired, best to keep
 them in a faraday cage at all times.

Buy a Bluetooth phone and get a matching colour Faraday cage for FREE! *

* Faraday not included.

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