Re: New article on root certificate problems with Windows

2007-07-21 Thread pgut001
Paul Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 2:45 AM +1200 7/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |From a security point of view, this is really bad. From a usability point of |view, it's necessary. As you can see from my list of proposed solutions, I disagree. I see no reason not to to alert a user

Re: New article on root certificate problems with Windows

2007-07-21 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 7:58 PM +1200 7/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 2:45 AM +1200 7/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |From a security point of view, this is really bad. From a usability point of |view, it's necessary. As you can see from my list of proposed

Re: New article on root certificate problems with Windows

2007-07-21 Thread Frank Siebenlist
(I don't have access to windoze... cannot verify if my suggestion would work...) Can't you replace the installed root certs with empty files or bogus content such that they will fail path validation and still trick MS not to re-install them? -Frank. Jeffrey Altman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New article on root certificate problems with Windows

2007-07-19 Thread pgut001
Paul Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I posted a new security research article at http://www.proper.com/root-cert-problem/. It is not directly related to crypto (although not so much of the traffic on this list is...), it does relate to some PKI topics that are favorites of this list. The

Re: New article on root certificate problems with Windows

2007-07-19 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 2:45 AM +1200 7/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a security point of view, this is really bad. From a usability point of view, it's necessary. As you can see from my list of proposed solutions, I disagree. I see no reason not to to alert a user *who has removed a root* that you are

Re: New article on root certificate problems with Windows

2007-07-19 Thread Ian G
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a security point of view, this is really bad. From a usability point of view, it's necessary. I agree with all the above, including deleted. The solution is to let the HCI people into the design process, something that's very rarely, if ever, done in the

Re: New article on root certificate problems with Windows

2007-07-19 Thread Jeffrey Altman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The executive summary, so I've got something to reply to: In the default configuration for Windows XP with Service Pack 2 (SP2), if a user removes one of the trusted root certificates, and the certifier who issued that root certificate is trusted by Microsoft,