Re: Phishers Defeat 2-Factor Auth

2006-07-12 Thread James A. Donald

Lance James wrote:

The site asks for your user name and password, as well as the
token-generated key. If you visit the site and enter bogus information to
test whether the site is legit -- a tactic used by some security-savvy
people -- you might be fooled. That's because this site acts as the man in
the middle -- it submits data provided by the user to the actual
Citibusiness login site. If that data generates an error, so does the
phishing site, thus making it look more real.


So long as logins are registered and performed in a web page, rather 
than in the chrome, we are hosed.


Creating a login, and logging into it, has to be a browser and email 
client function, not a web page function.




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Re: Phishers Defeat 2-Factor Auth

2006-07-11 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler

Lance James wrote:
Full article at http: // blog.washingtonpost.com / securityfix / 


happen to mention more than a year ago ... that it would be subject to 
mitm-attacks ... recent comment on the subject
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm24.htm#33 Threatwatch - 2-factor tokens 
attacked by phishers.


in thread in this mailing list more than year ago
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm19.htm#20 Citibank discloses private 
information to improve security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm19.htm#21 Citibank discloses private 
information to improve security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm19.htm#22 Citibank discloses private 
information to improve security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm19.htm#23 Citibank discloses private 
information to improve security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm19.htm#24 Citibank discloses private 
information to improve security


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RE: Phishers Defeat 2-Factor Auth

2006-07-11 Thread Lance James
Yep, the phishers finally started doing it. If it becomes a threat to them,
they will adapt.

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Lance James wrote:
 Full article at http: // blog.washingtonpost.com / securityfix / 

happen to mention more than a year ago ... that it would be subject to 
mitm-attacks ... recent comment on the subject
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm24.htm#33 Threatwatch - 2-factor tokens 
attacked by phishers.

in thread in this mailing list more than year ago
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm19.htm#20 Citibank discloses private 
information to improve security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm19.htm#21 Citibank discloses private 
information to improve security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm19.htm#22 Citibank discloses private 
information to improve security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm19.htm#23 Citibank discloses private 
information to improve security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm19.htm#24 Citibank discloses private 
information to improve security

... and so on

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