Re: draft paper: "Deploying a New Hash Algorithm"

2005-08-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Steven M. Bellovin: > I'd have phrased it differently than Perry did. I'd say that the > attackers are often cleverer *about security* than protocol designers, > because insecurity is their specialty. I think this misses the point. Hardly anybody attacks protocols. In fact, I think that th

Re: draft paper: "Deploying a New Hash Algorithm"

2005-08-06 Thread John Kelsey
>From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Aug 5, 2005 12:04 PM >To: Steve Furlong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: cryptography@metzdowd.com .Subject: Re: draft paper: "Deploying a New Hash Algorithm" ... >I'd have phrased it differen

Re: draft paper: "Deploying a New Hash Algorithm"

2005-08-05 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Furlong writes: >> [Moderator's note: ... attackers are often cleverer than protocol >> designers. ... > >Is that true? Or is it a combination of > >(a) a hundred attackers for every designer, and >(b) vastly disparate rewards: continued employment and maybe so

Re: draft paper: "Deploying a New Hash Algorithm"

2005-08-04 Thread Steve Furlong
> [Moderator's note: ... attackers are often cleverer than protocol > designers. ... Is that true? Or is it a combination of (a) a hundred attackers for every designer, and (b) vastly disparate rewards: continued employment and maybe some kudos for a designer or implementer, access to $1,000,000,

Re: draft paper: "Deploying a New Hash Algorithm"

2005-08-04 Thread Alex Alten
Steve, At 05:34 PM 7/29/2005 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alex Alten write s: >At 08:12 AM 7/25/2005 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: >>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alex Alten >>write >>s: >> >Steve, >> > >> >This also seems to be in conjunction with the p

Re: draft paper: "Deploying a New Hash Algorithm"

2005-07-25 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alex Alten write s: >Steve, > >This also seems to be in conjunction with the potential switch over from >RSA et al. to >ECC for PKI, etc. > Yes, Eric and I have been talking about that, and we'll add some discussion of that to the next version of the paper.