Re: how to encrypt and integrity-check with only one key

2009-09-15 Thread David-Sarah Hopwood
Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn wrote:
 following-up to my own post:
 
 On Monday,2009-09-14, at 10:22 , Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn wrote:
 
 David-Sarah Hopwood suggested the improvement that the integrity-check
 value V could be computed as an integrity check (i.e. a secure hash)
 on the K1_enc in addition to the file contents.
 
 Oops, that's impossible.  What David-Sarah Hopwood actually said was
 that this would be nice if it were possible, but since it isn't then
 people should pass around the tuple of (v, K1_enc) whenever they want to
 verify the integrity of the ciphertext.
 
 http://allmydata.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2009-September/002798.html

Zooko is referring to the argument after the first '-' in that post.
Note that the argument after the second '-' was wrong; see the correction in
http://allmydata.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2009-September/002801.html.

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Re: how to encrypt and integrity-check with only one key

2009-09-14 Thread Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn

following-up to my own post:

On Monday,2009-09-14, at 10:22 , Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn wrote:

David-Sarah Hopwood suggested the improvement that the integrity- 
check value V could be computed as an integrity check (i.e. a  
secure hash) on the K1_enc in addition to the file contents.


Oops, that's impossible.  What David-Sarah Hopwood actually said was  
that this would be nice if it were possible, but since it isn't then  
people should pass around the tuple of (v, K1_enc) whenever they want  
to verify the integrity of the ciphertext.


http://allmydata.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2009-September/002798.html

Regards,

Zooko


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