Re: Who cares about side-channel attacks?

2008-11-03 Thread Tanja Lange
Examples of side channel analysis on real systems I however have never seen in the field. Any rumors would be highly appreciated. At Crypto'08 a team from Bochum demonstrated their side-channel attack on KeeLoq. There were some theoretical attacks before but the SCA really broke it. KeeLoq

Re: Who cares about side-channel attacks?

2008-11-02 Thread Peter Gutmann
Wouter Slegers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Timing analysis is quite possible to pull of in straightforward implementations as demonstrated over the Internet on OpenSSL prior to their implementation of blinding ( http://crypto.stanford.edu/~dabo/papers/ssl-timing.pdf). But frankly, I have never

Re: Who cares about side-channel attacks?

2008-11-01 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 16:32 +1300, Peter Gutmann wrote: Look at the XBox attacks for example, there's everything from security 101 lack of checking/validation and 1980s MSDOS-era A20# issues through to Bunnie Huang's FPGA-based homebrew logic analyser and use of timing attacks to recover

Re: Who cares about side-channel attacks?

2008-10-30 Thread Peter Gutmann
Ben Laurie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Peter Gutmann wrote: Given the string of attacks on crypto in embedded devices (XBox, iPhone, iOpener, Wii, some not-yet-published ones on HDCP devices :-), etc) this is by far the most at-risk category because there's a huge incentive to attack them, the

Re: Who cares about side-channel attacks?

2008-10-30 Thread Thierry Moreau
Peter Gutmann wrote: Ben Laurie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Peter Gutmann wrote: Given the string of attacks on crypto in embedded devices (XBox, iPhone, iOpener, Wii, some not-yet-published ones on HDCP devices :-), etc) this is by far the most at-risk category because there's a huge

Re: Who cares about side-channel attacks?

2008-10-27 Thread Ben Laurie
Peter Gutmann wrote: In fact none of the people/organisations I queried about this fitted into any of the proposed categories, it was all embedded devices, typically SCADA systems, home automation, consumer electronics, that sort of thing, so it was really a single category which was

Re: Who cares about side-channel attacks?

2008-10-25 Thread Peter Gutmann
Thierry Moreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I find the question should be refined. It could if there was a large enough repondent base to draw samples from :-). This is one of those surveys that can never be done because no vendor will publicly talk to you about security measures in their

Re: Who cares about side-channel attacks?

2008-10-24 Thread Jack Lloyd
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 05:51:50PM +1300, Peter Gutmann wrote: For the past several years I've been making a point of asking users of crypto on embedded systems (which would be particularly good targets for side-channel attacks, particularly ones that provide content-protection capabilities)