Re: Spy/Counterspy

2010-07-11 Thread Christoph Gruber
-- Christoph Gruber If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy. Phil Zimmermann Am 10.07.2010 um 12:57 schrieb Jerry Leichter leich...@lrw.com: On Jul 9, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Pawel wrote: Hi, On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:38 AM, Peter Gutmann (alt) pgut001.reflec...@gmail.com

Re: Spy/Counterspy

2010-07-11 Thread Ben Laurie
On 10 July 2010 11:57, Jerry Leichter leich...@lrw.com wrote: Beyond simple hacking - someone is quoted saying You can consider GPS a little like computers before the first virus - if I had stood here before then and cried about the risks, you would've asked 'why would anyone bother?'. - among

Re: Spy/Counterspy

2010-07-11 Thread Jerry Leichter
On Jul 11, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Ben Laurie wrote: Beyond simple hacking - someone is quoted saying You can consider GPS a little like computers before the first virus - if I had stood here before then and cried about the risks, you would've asked 'why would anyone bother?'. - among the

Location services risks (was: Re: Spy/Counterspy)

2010-07-11 Thread John Ioannidis
Location-based services are already being used for dating services (big surprise here). Mobiles send their location to a server, the server figures out who is near whom, and matches them. There are lots of variants on that. An obvious risk here is that the server is acting as a location

Re: Spy/Counterspy

2010-07-10 Thread Jerry Leichter
On Jul 9, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Pawel wrote: Hi, On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:38 AM, Peter Gutmann (alt) pgut001.reflec...@gmail.com wrote: GPS tracking units that you can fit to your car to track where your kids are taking it [T]he sorts of places that'll sell you card skimmers and RFID

Spy/Counterspy

2010-07-09 Thread Peter Gutmann (alt)
GPS tracking units that you can fit to your car to track where your kids are taking it (or *cough* other purposes) have been around for awhile now. It's interesting to see that recently the sorts of places that'll sell you card skimmers and RFID cloners have started selling miniature GPS jammers

Re: Spy/Counterspy

2010-07-09 Thread Pawel
Hi, On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:38 AM, Peter Gutmann (alt) pgut001.reflec...@gmail.com wrote: GPS tracking units that you can fit to your car to track where your kids are taking it (or *cough* other purposes) have been around for awhile now. It's interesting to see that recently the sorts of