Re: Some additional info about Which book for a newbie to cryptography?

[Foo-o-Matic]

Ok, I have read both yours and Sandy Harris's replies, and looked
again at my previous message, and the opinions are kinda ambiguous.
I think I will go to the library and pick one of them.
anyway, I don't feel I need a book that gets very or too deep, because
I really don't have much time for that. I just need a good book which
will teach me the main and important things, and won't be too much
mathy (altho I passes the Discrete Math 1 and 2 courses, I don't
really like it, maybe except combinatorics and that theory with P Q's,
and T(), F()'s (I don't know its name in english, it isn't my native
language).
well thanks for the help so far, you have all been very helpful.


On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 15:29:27 +0100, M Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 01:19:18PM +0200, Foo-o-Matic wrote:
  1. I'm a 2nd year student of BA in Computer Science, I finished 5
 
  - Cryptography : theory and practice: 2nd ed. / Douglas R. Stinson
  - Handbook of applied cryptography / Alfred J. Menezes, Paul C. van
  Oorschot, Scott A. Vanstone
  
 The first is a textbook aimed at senior undergrad students or first
 year graduate students, and one of the more frequently used textbooks
 at university. Either it or A Course in Number Theory and Cryptography
 by Neil Koblitz are good places to start.
 
 The Handbook of Applied Cryptography is a very useful reference,
 although since it predates AES it does show its age a bit. Still,
 it is IMHO better than Schneier's Applied Cryptography for going into
 details.
 
 For an historic overview and practical examples of unbreakable
 encryption failing look for either The Code Book by Simon Singh
 and/or The Codebreakers by David Kahn (ISBN 0684831309). I really
 recommend you spend some time reading at least one of these.
 
  As you can see, no Schneier here.
 
 Applied Cryptography is overrated as a bible IMHO, though when combined
 with Practial Cryptography the misleading dictum of sprinkling a little
 bit of crypto over things will make it secure is tempered.
 
 Read http://www.counterpane.com/whycrypto.html,
  http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rja14/wcf.html, and
  http://www.counterpane.com/pitfalls.html.
 
 Good luck.
 


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Which book for a newbie to cryptography?

[Foo-O-Matic]

Hi, first im new to this list and to cryptography. :)
I've read the first lesson from this 24 crypto lessons:
http://www.und.nodak.edu/org/crypto/crypto/lanaki.crypt.class/lessons/
and found it really interesting. I want to start learning cryptography
from a book, and I have access to these 3 books from the library in
the college near me:

- Handbook of applied cryptography / Alfred J. Menezes, Paul C. van
Oorschot, Scott A. Vanstone / 1996
- Cryptography : theory and practice 2nd ed. / Douglas R. Stinson / 2002

What I want to know is which one is recommended for someone which is
new to cryptography?

Thanks in advance,
Foo-o-Matic

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