see also credentica announcement about U-prove (Re: IBM donates new privacy tool to open-source)

2007-02-15 Thread Adam Back
Related to this announcement, credentica.com (Stefan Brands' company)
has released U-Prove, their toolkit  SDK for doing limited-show,
selective disclosure and other aspects of the Brands credentials.

http://www.credentica.com/uprove_sdk.html

(Also on Stefans blog http://www.idcorner.org/?p=144).

I believe Brands credentials are considerably more computationally
efficient and more general/flexible than Camenisch credentials.

(Re Hal's comment on the patent status of Camenisch credentials, as
far as I know patents apply to both systems).

Looks like you can obtain an evaluation copy of U-prove also.

Adam

On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 10:34:33AM -0800, Hal Finney wrote:
 John Gilmore forwards:
  http://news.com.com/IBM+donates+new+privacy+tool+to+open-source/2100-1029_3-6153625.html
 
  IBM donates new privacy tool to open-source
By  Joris Evers
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
Published: January 25, 2007, 9:00 PM PST
 
  IBM has developed software designed to let people keep personal  
  information secret when doing business online and donated it to the  
  Higgins open-source project.
 
The software, called Identity Mixer, was developed by IBM  
  researchers. The idea is that people provide encrypted digital  
  credentials issued by trusted parties like a bank or government agency  
  when transacting online, instead of sharing credit card or other  
  details in plain text, Anthony Nadalin, IBM's chief security architect,  
  said in an interview.
  ...
 
 I just wanted to note that the idemix software implements what we
 sometimes call Camenisch credentials.  This is a very advanced credential
 system based on zero knowledge and group signatures.  The basic idea is
 that you get a credential on one pseudonym and can show it on another
 pseudonym, unlinkably.  More advanced formulations also allow for
 credential revocation.  I don't know the specifics of what this software
 implements, and I'm also unclear about the patent status of some of the
 more sophisticated aspects, but I'm looking forward to being able to
 experiment with this technology.
 
 Hal Finney
 
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Re: see also credentica announcement about U-prove (Re: IBM donates new privacy tool to open-source)

2007-02-15 Thread Ben Laurie
Adam Back wrote:
 Related to this announcement, credentica.com (Stefan Brands' company)
 has released U-Prove, their toolkit  SDK for doing limited-show,
 selective disclosure and other aspects of the Brands credentials.
 
   http://www.credentica.com/uprove_sdk.html
 
 (Also on Stefans blog http://www.idcorner.org/?p=144).
 
 I believe Brands credentials are considerably more computationally
 efficient and more general/flexible than Camenisch credentials.

Not sure about more general. Brands does claim they are more efficient,
though - however, Camenisch/Lysyanskya credentials have been improved
since they were first thought of, and are also a lot faster if you don't
insist on academic rigour. I have not yet put them side-by-side, but I
do have a partial implementation of C/L credentials for OpenSSL and am
planning a Brands implementation, too.

 (Re Hal's comment on the patent status of Camenisch credentials, as
 far as I know patents apply to both systems).
 
 Looks like you can obtain an evaluation copy of U-prove also.
 
 Adam
 
 On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 10:34:33AM -0800, Hal Finney wrote:
 John Gilmore forwards:
 http://news.com.com/IBM+donates+new+privacy+tool+to+open-source/2100-1029_3-6153625.html

 IBM donates new privacy tool to open-source
   By  Joris Evers
   Staff Writer, CNET News.com
   Published: January 25, 2007, 9:00 PM PST

 IBM has developed software designed to let people keep personal  
 information secret when doing business online and donated it to the  
 Higgins open-source project.

   The software, called Identity Mixer, was developed by IBM  
 researchers. The idea is that people provide encrypted digital  
 credentials issued by trusted parties like a bank or government agency  
 when transacting online, instead of sharing credit card or other  
 details in plain text, Anthony Nadalin, IBM's chief security architect,  
 said in an interview.
 ...
 I just wanted to note that the idemix software implements what we
 sometimes call Camenisch credentials.  This is a very advanced credential
 system based on zero knowledge and group signatures.  The basic idea is
 that you get a credential on one pseudonym and can show it on another
 pseudonym, unlinkably.  More advanced formulations also allow for
 credential revocation.  I don't know the specifics of what this software
 implements, and I'm also unclear about the patent status of some of the
 more sophisticated aspects, but I'm looking forward to being able to
 experiment with this technology.

 Hal Finney

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