Re: [Cryptography] About those fingerprints ...

2013-09-13 Thread Jerry Leichter
[Perry - this is likely getting too far off-topic, but I've included the list just in case you feel otherwise. -- J] On Sep 12, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Andrew W. Donoho a...@ddg.com wrote: On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:13 , Jerry Leichter leich...@lrw.com wrote: On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Andrew

[Cryptography] About those fingerprints ...

2013-09-11 Thread Andrew W. Donoho
Gentlefolk, Fingerprint scanners have shipped on laptops and phones for years. Yesterday, Apple made the bold, unaudited claim that it will never save the fingerprint data outside of the A7 chip. Why should we trust Cook Co.? They are subject to the laws of the land

Re: [Cryptography] About those fingerprints ...

2013-09-11 Thread Jerry Leichter
On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Andrew W. Donoho a...@ddg.com wrote: Yesterday, Apple made the bold, unaudited claim that it will never save the fingerprint data outside of the A7 chip. By announcing it publicly, they put themselves on the line for lawsuits and regulatory actions all over the

Re: [Cryptography] About those fingerprints ...

2013-09-11 Thread Salz, Rich
Yesterday, Apple made the bold, unaudited claim that it will never save the fingerprint data outside of the A7 chip. Why should we trust Cook Co.? I'm not sure it matters. If I want your fingerprint, I'll lift it off your phone. -- Principal Security Engineer Akamai Technology

Re: [Cryptography] About those fingerprints ...

2013-09-11 Thread Jerry Leichter
On Sep 11, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Tim Dierks t...@dierks.org wrote: When it comes to litigation or actual examination, it's been demonstrated again and again that people can hide behind their own definitions of terms that you thought were self-evident. For example, the NSA's definition of

Re: [Cryptography] About those fingerprints ...

2013-09-11 Thread Ramsey Dow
On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:16 AM, Andrew W. Donoho a...@ddg.com wrote: Yesterday, Apple made the bold, unaudited claim that it will never save the fingerprint data outside of the A7 chip. If you watch the video at http://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2013/, Dan Riccio says at 61:08

Re: [Cryptography] About those fingerprints ...

2013-09-11 Thread Tim Dierks
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Jerry Leichter leich...@lrw.com wrote: On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Andrew W. Donoho a...@ddg.com wrote: Yesterday, Apple made the bold, unaudited claim that it will never save the fingerprint data outside of the A7 chip. By announcing it publicly, they put