Re: [Cryptography] An NSA mathematician shares his from-the-trenches view of the agency's surveillance activities

2013-09-18 Thread ianG
On 18/09/13 00:56 AM, John Gilmore wrote: Forwarded-By: David Farber d...@farber.net Forwarded-By: Annie I. Anton Ph.D. aian...@mindspring.com http://www.zdnet.com/nsa-cryptanalyst-we-too-are-americans-720689/ NSA cryptanalyst: We, too, are Americans Speaking as a non-American, you guys

Re: [Cryptography] An NSA mathematician shares his from-the-trenches view of the agency's surveillance activities

2013-09-18 Thread Lodewijk andré de la porte
Everybody has to write a statement. The statement that most convinces the public that we're okay gets published and a big-o-bonus. You guys have 3 days. ___ The cryptography mailing list cryptography@metzdowd.com

Re: [Cryptography] An NSA mathematician shares his from-the-trenches view of the agency's surveillance activities

2013-09-18 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:01 PM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: Techdirt takes apart his statement here: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130917/02391824549/nsa-needs-to-give-its-rank-and-file-new-talking-points-defending-surveillance-old-ones-are-stale.shtml NSA Needs To Give Its

Re: [Cryptography] An NSA mathematician shares his from-the-trenches view of the agency's surveillance activities

2013-09-18 Thread Pat Farrell
On 9/18/13 10:44 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: The enterprise bridge control center certainly does not seem to be Hayden's style either. Hayden is not the type to build a showboat like that. Moving abit OT: On the PBS Newshour coverage of this story, the showed the website of DBI Architects

[Cryptography] An NSA mathematician shares his from-the-trenches view of the agency's surveillance activities

2013-09-17 Thread John Gilmore
Forwarded-By: David Farber d...@farber.net Forwarded-By: Annie I. Anton Ph.D. aian...@mindspring.com http://www.zdnet.com/nsa-cryptanalyst-we-too-are-americans-720689/ NSA cryptanalyst: We, too, are Americans Summary: ZDNet Exclusive: An NSA mathematician shares his from-the-trenches view

Re: [Cryptography] An NSA mathematician shares his from-the-trenches view of the agency's surveillance activities

2013-09-17 Thread John Gilmore
Techdirt takes apart his statement here: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130917/02391824549/nsa-needs-to-give-its-rank-and-file-new-talking-points-defending-surveillance-old-ones-are-stale.shtml NSA Needs To Give Its Rank-and-File New Talking Points Defending Surveillance; The Old