Re: Cryptome cut off by NTT/Verio

2007-04-30 Thread Jeff . Hodges
Note that JohnY offers a DVD of the entire site's current state, plus bonus 
extra DVD, for a mere $25 donation. I've got mine, get yers now.


=JeffH


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Re: Cryptome cut off by NTT/Verio

2007-04-29 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Cryptome.org has not been shut down yet (the notice from Verio dated 28
April says they were being given two weeks to find another provider).
They seem to have been slashdotted.

The shutdown notice page is not yet archivd at archive.org, but is
mirrored on a responsive site, mirror.org:

http://www.mirrordot.org/stories/e231a81023b07bf399b68b2c295e9736/

Here's a comment by John Young in the slashdot thread:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=232691&cid=18919481

It links to a page on cryptome.org, which of course is unavailable
during the slashdotting but is in the archive.org archives:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://cryptome.org/stoa-atpc.htm

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Re: Cryptome cut off by NTT/Verio

2007-04-29 Thread dan
[Moderator's note: I'm forwarding this one message, but I will
 not be forwarding any further messages on what regulations ISPs
 should or should not be subject to -- that is beyond the scope of the
 mailing list. --Perry]

Perry, et al.,

"If I ran the zoo", then I would give the 
big ISPs this choice:

(1) You accept common carrier designation,
which means you are not responsible for 
your content but you have to charge the
same for transporting X bits independent
of what those bits are.

(2) You can charge whatever you want to
charge, e.g., get into the premium movie
distribution business, but you are not
a common carrier and you are responsible
for the content you carry.

Note that what they want is the good
parts of both (we can charge what we
like and it is never our fault).

--dan


"Perry E. Metzger" writes:
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 | Slightly off topic, but not deeply. Many of you are familiar with
 | John Young's "Cryptome" web site. Apparently NTT/Verio has suddenly
 | (after many years) decided that Cryptome violates the ISP's AUP,
 | though they haven't made it particularly clear why.
 | 
 | The following link will work for at least a few days I imagine:
 | 
 | http://cryptome.org/cryptome-shut.htm
 | 

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STILL MORE Re: Cryptome cut off by NTT/Verio

2007-04-29 Thread Allen



Perry E. Metzger wrote:

Slightly off topic, but not deeply. Many of you are familiar with
John Young's "Cryptome" web site. Apparently NTT/Verio has suddenly
(after many years) decided that Cryptome violates the ISP's AUP,
though they haven't made it particularly clear why.

The following link will work for at least a few days I imagine:

http://cryptome.org/cryptome-shut.htm


Okay gang,

I've loaded it at:

http://www.sound-by-design.com/cryptome/cryptome-shut.htm

Sorry, no images and internal links but at least the bulk is there.

Best,

Allen

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MORE Re: Cryptome cut off by NTT/Verio

2007-04-29 Thread Allen



Perry E. Metzger wrote:

Slightly off topic, but not deeply. Many of you are familiar with
John Young's "Cryptome" web site. Apparently NTT/Verio has suddenly
(after many years) decided that Cryptome violates the ISP's AUP,
though they haven't made it particularly clear why.

The following link will work for at least a few days I imagine:

http://cryptome.org/cryptome-shut.htm


Okay gang,

The URL/URI is

http://www.sound-by-design.com/cryptome/Cryptome.htm

It has a lot of the shut down stuff down the page a bit. Sorry, 
no internal links and no images.


Allen

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Re: Cryptome cut off by NTT/Verio

2007-04-29 Thread Ian G

Perry E. Metzger wrote:

Slightly off topic, but not deeply. Many of you are familiar with
John Young's "Cryptome" web site. Apparently NTT/Verio has suddenly
(after many years) decided that Cryptome violates the ISP's AUP,
though they haven't made it particularly clear why.

The following link will work for at least a few days I imagine:

http://cryptome.org/cryptome-shut.htm



Quintessenz seem to be maintaining a mirror:

http://cryptome.quintessenz.org/mirror/

http://cryptome.quintessenz.org/mirror/cryptome-shut.htm

iang

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Re: Cryptome cut off by NTT/Verio

2007-04-29 Thread Allen

Hi Bill,

Tried that and got:


Your search - http://cryptome.org/cryptome-shut.htm - did not match any 
documents.


I have had some luck at getting the page by attempting several 
times, but then I got stupid and forgot to save it!


Currently I've got http://www.eyeball-series.org/.

I'll save it as HTML and send it to anyone who wants it.

Does anyone have an alternate e-mail address for John Young? My 
provider is willing to host and is chp - 500MB/unlimited 
bandwidth for less than $6/month and unlimited storage/bandwidth 
for less than $50 a month.


Yeah this is a bit of a plug, but I'm not getting anything for 
it, just letting people know that there are good folk out there.


Best,

Allen

Bill Squier wrote:


On Apr 29, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Perry E. Metzger wrote:



Slightly off topic, but not deeply. Many of you are familiar with
John Young's "Cryptome" web site. Apparently NTT/Verio has suddenly
(after many years) decided that Cryptome violates the ISP's AUP,
though they haven't made it particularly clear why.

The following link will work for at least a few days I imagine:

http://cryptome.org/cryptome-shut.htm


It appears to already be dead, but still exists in Google's cache:

http://tinyurl.com/yvc8k4

-wps

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Re: Cryptome cut off by NTT/Verio

2007-04-29 Thread Bill Squier


On Apr 29, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Perry E. Metzger wrote:



Slightly off topic, but not deeply. Many of you are familiar with
John Young's "Cryptome" web site. Apparently NTT/Verio has suddenly
(after many years) decided that Cryptome violates the ISP's AUP,
though they haven't made it particularly clear why.

The following link will work for at least a few days I imagine:

http://cryptome.org/cryptome-shut.htm


It appears to already be dead, but still exists in Google's cache:

http://tinyurl.com/yvc8k4

-wps

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Cryptome cut off by NTT/Verio

2007-04-29 Thread Perry E. Metzger

Slightly off topic, but not deeply. Many of you are familiar with
John Young's "Cryptome" web site. Apparently NTT/Verio has suddenly
(after many years) decided that Cryptome violates the ISP's AUP,
though they haven't made it particularly clear why.

The following link will work for at least a few days I imagine:

http://cryptome.org/cryptome-shut.htm

-- 
Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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