Re: Elcomsoft trying to patent faster GPU-based password cracker

2007-10-27 Thread Richard Salz
Papers are nice; working hardware is cooler:) A SHA1/MD5 brute-force cracker built from "scrapped" HD transformers: http://nsa.unaligned.org/index.php -- STSM, DataPower Chief Programmer WebSphere DataPower SOA Appliances http://www.ibm.com/software/integration/datapower/

Re: Elcomsoft trying to patent faster GPU-based password cracker

2007-10-27 Thread Nate Lawson
Ilya Levin wrote: > I'm not affiliated with Elcomsoft and don't know their real > intentions, but what they are trying to do is perfectly reasonable. > Once they release a commercial product with such feature it is only a > matter of time until Microsoft or some other patent troll will run for > a

Re: Elcomsoft trying to patent faster GPU-based password cracker

2007-10-26 Thread Ilya Levin
I'm not affiliated with Elcomsoft and don't know their real intentions, but what they are trying to do is perfectly reasonable. Once they release a commercial product with such feature it is only a matter of time until Microsoft or some other patent troll will run for a patent and start suing. So,

Re: Elcomsoft trying to patent faster GPU-based password cracker

2007-10-26 Thread Angelos D. Keromytis
Actually, there's a slightly earlier paper: "CryptoGraphics: Secret Key Cryptography Using Graphics Cards" Debra L. Cook, John Ioannidis, Angelos D. Keromytis, and Jake Luck. In Proceedings of the RSA Conference, Cryptographer's Track (CT-RSA), pp. 334 - 350. February 2005, San Francisco, CA. A

RE: Elcomsoft trying to patent faster GPU-based password cracker

2007-10-25 Thread Trei, Peter
yptography' Subject: RE: Elcomsoft trying to patent faster GPU-based password cracker ROTFL. When SGI's "stealth" DES Challenge project was underway in 1997, it's main client ran on the host's (MIPS) CPU(s), implemented with a variant of Eli Biham's bit-slice DES im

Re: Elcomsoft trying to patent faster GPU-based password cracker

2007-10-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 10/24/07, Jon Callas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unfortunately, the PTO hands out patents for things like using a > laser pointer as a cat toy. > There is the newish "Peer to Patent" system to help with this. Unfortunately, it is voluntary. I just took a quick look and the Elcomsoft patent ap

RE: Elcomsoft trying to patent faster GPU-based password cracker

2007-10-25 Thread Ian Farquhar (ifarquha)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 3:25 AM To: Cryptography Subject: Elcomsoft trying to patent faster GPU-based password cracker From: <http://www.elcomsoft.com/EDPR/gpu_en.pdf> Moscow, Russia - October 22, 2007 - ElcomSoft Co. Ltd

Re: Elcomsoft trying to patent faster GPU-based password cracker

2007-10-25 Thread Jon Callas
On Oct 24, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I hope they don't get the patent. The idea of using a GPU for cryptographic calculations isn't new; see, for example, "Remotely Keyed Cryptographics: Secure Remote Display Access Using (Mostly) Untrusted Hardware" (http://www1.cs.columbi

Re: Elcomsoft trying to patent faster GPU-based password cracker

2007-10-24 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:25:29 -0400 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: > > > > Moscow, Russia - October 22, 2007 - ElcomSoft Co. Ltd. has > discovered and filed for a US patent...Using the "brute force" > technique of recover

Elcomsoft trying to patent faster GPU-based password cracker

2007-10-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Moscow, Russia - October 22, 2007 - ElcomSoft Co. Ltd. has discovered and filed for a US patent...Using the "brute force" technique of recovering passwords, it was possible, though time-consuming, to recover passwords from popular appl