Re: FW: How broad is the SPEKE patent.

2005-11-15 Thread D Jablon
At 14:47 11/10/2005 -0800, Charlie Kaufman wrote: [... Radia Perlman and I] were approached by David Jablon, the inventor of SPEKE but no longer the patent holder, who suggested that we should not assume that PDM did not infringe SPEKE and should not make such claims to others. This was based on

Re: FW: How broad is the SPEKE patent.

2005-11-11 Thread Trevor Perrin
Charlie Kaufman wrote: [...] I am not aware of anyone who is publicly shipping - either in a commercial product or as open source - an implementation of a strong password protocol without having paid protection money to either Lucent or Phoenix (or both). A not totally up-to-date list of

FW: How broad is the SPEKE patent.

2005-11-10 Thread Charlie Kaufman
(resending after bounce) -Original Message- From: Charlie Kaufman Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:59 PM To: 'James A. Donald'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cryptography@metzdowd.com Subject: RE: How broad is the SPEKE patent. James A. Donald said: Does SPEKE claim to patent any uses of

FW: How broad is the SPEKE patent.

2005-11-10 Thread Charlie Kaufman
(resending after bounce) -Original Message- From: Charlie Kaufman Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:54 PM To: 'Steven M. Bellovin'; James A. Donald Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cryptography@metzdowd.com Subject: RE: How broad is the SPEKE patent. - Steven M. Bellovin wrote: Radia