Re: Free WiFi man-in-the-middle scam seen in the wild.

2007-01-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Perry E. Metzger: If you go over to, say, www.fidelity.com, you will find that you can't even get to the http: version of the page any more -- you are always redirected to the https: version. Of course, this only helps if users visit the site using bookmarks that were created after the

Re: Free WiFi man-in-the-middle scam seen in the wild.

2007-01-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- Perry E. Metzger wrote: It used to be that Verizon (my local phone company, sadly) had this general problem but you could click on log in and it would direct you to a secure page with a little error message and you could then enter your username and password. They've since fixed that

Free WiFi man-in-the-middle scam seen in the wild.

2007-01-23 Thread Perry E. Metzger
For years, I've complained about banks, such as Chase, which let people type in the password to their bank account into a page that has been downloaded via http: instead of https:. The banks always say oh, that's no problem, because the password is posted via https:, and I say but that's only if

Re: Free WiFi man-in-the-middle scam seen in the wild.

2007-01-23 Thread Derek Atkins
Quoting Perry E. Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now you might wonder, why do I keep picking on Chase? A certain other security person and I had an extended argument with the folks at another company I won't name other than to say that it was American Express. At the time, they more or less said,

Re: Free WiFi man-in-the-middle scam seen in the wild.

2007-01-23 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
On Tue, January 23, 2007 09:24, Perry E. Metzger wrote: (Incidently, the article gets a few things wrong. It somewhat implies that you are safe if you pick a WiFi network you have a previous relationship with, which isn't true.) It also is only warning against ad-hoc connections with

Re: Free WiFi man-in-the-middle scam seen in the wild.

2007-01-23 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Derek Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll just point out that you CAN go to: https://chaseonline.chase.com/ And that works, and should be secure. And for the six people that know to do that, it works great. :) It used to be that Verizon (my local phone company, sadly) had this general

Re: Free WiFi man-in-the-middle scam seen in the wild.

2007-01-23 Thread Matthias Bruestle
Hi, Perry E. Metzger wrote: For years, I've complained about banks, such as Chase, which let people type in the password to their bank account into a page that has been downloaded via http: instead of https:. The banks always say oh, that's no problem, because the password is posted via