At 08:05 AM 5/11/2006, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
Let me again remind people that if you do not inform your elected
representatives of your displeasure with this sort of thing,
eventually you will not be in a position to inform them of your
displeasure with this sort of thing.
I think begging
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You and I are in agreement, but how do we get
the seemingly (to us) plain truth across to
others? I've been trying for a good while now,
reaching a point where I'd almost wish for a
crisis of some sort as persuasiveness is not
working.
We are probably
alan writes:
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| Probably because most Americans believe they are being spied on
| anyways. (And have for a very long time.)
|
Au contraire', it is precisely what, for example,
my spouse would say: I live a decent life and have
nothing to hide.
As this and all
Perry E. Metzger wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
While I agree with you, the public does not,
so far as I can tell, find itself willing to
risk insecurity for the benefit of preserving
privacy, as this article in today's Boston
Globe would tend to confirm.
I'm sure. On the other hand, I
Nick Owen writes:
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| Or to teach pollsters to ask the correct questions.
| ...
All,
Mr. Owen is dead-on. Speaking as someone who has had
a formal education in statistics including the design
of survey instruments, I will say that of all the ways
in which it is
On Fri, 12 May 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
alan writes:
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| Probably because most Americans believe they are being spied on
| anyways. (And have for a very long time.)
|
Au contraire', it is precisely what, for example,
my spouse would say: I live a decent life and have
On Fri, 12 May 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perry E. Metzger writes:
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| And a personal note to you all:
|
| Let me again remind people that if you do not inform your elected
| representatives of your displeasure with this sort of thing,
| eventually you will not
Alan,
You and I are in agreement, but how do we get
the seemingly (to us) plain truth across to
others? I've been trying for a good while now,
reaching a point where I'd almost wish for a
crisis of some sort as persuasiveness is not
working.
We are probably well off-topic for this list.
--dan
alan writes:
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| I guess the big question is one of trust. I cannot see why people
| trust the Bush administration. Any time they have been given power
| they have abused it or used it to destroy their rivals.
|
I don't think this has anything to do with
any particular
See also Title 18 section 2703(c)(2):
(2) A provider of electronic communication service or remote computing
service shall disclose to a governmental entity the - (A) name; (B)
address; (C) local and long distance telephone connection records, or
records of session times and durations; (D)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You and I are in agreement, but how do we get
the seemingly (to us) plain truth across to
others? I've been trying for a good while now,
reaching a point where I'd almost wish for a
crisis of some sort as persuasiveness is not
working.
for other drift ... the stuff
Perry E. Metzger wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm
Legal analysis from Center for Democracy and Technology at:
http://www.cdt.org/publications/policyposts/2006/8
--
William Allen Simpson
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Perry E. Metzger writes:
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|
| And a personal note to you all:
|
| Let me again remind people that if you do not inform your elected
| representatives of your displeasure with this sort of thing,
| eventually you will not be in a position to inform them of your
|
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
While I agree with you, the public does not,
so far as I can tell, find itself willing to
risk insecurity for the benefit of preserving
privacy, as this article in today's Boston
Globe would tend to confirm.
I'm sure. On the other hand, I think it is our place, as
An interesting article in USA Today:
NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls
Updated 5/11/2006 10:38 AM ET
By Leslie Cauley, USA TODAY
The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone
call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided
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