Re: [p2p-hackers] IETF rejects Obfuscated TCP

2008-08-20 Thread Eric Rescorla
At Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:27:50 -0700, Adam Langley wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Alex Pankratov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Based on this reply alone I'm not sure I follow. I also read quickly > > through your exchange on TCPM and your comments appear to be specific > > to Adam's dr

RE: [p2p-hackers] IETF rejects Obfuscated TCP

2008-08-20 Thread Alex Pankratov
> -Original Message- > From: Eric Rescorla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: August 20, 2008 12:29 PM > To: Alex Pankratov > Cc: 'Eric Rescorla'; 'theory and practice of decentralized computer > networks'; cryptography@metzdowd.com > Subject: Re:

Re: [p2p-hackers] IETF rejects Obfuscated TCP

2008-08-20 Thread Eric Rescorla
At Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:59:48 -0700, Alex Pankratov wrote: > > May I ask what you're trying to accomplish? Recall that TLS doesn't > > start until a TCP connection has been established, so there's > > aready a proof of the round trip. > > > > That said, a mechanism of this type has already been des

RE: [p2p-hackers] IETF rejects Obfuscated TCP

2008-08-20 Thread Alex Pankratov
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Rescorla > Sent: August 20, 2008 10:31 AM > To: Alex Pankratov > Cc: 'theory and practice of decentralized computer networks'; > cryptography@metzdowd.com &g

Re: [p2p-hackers] IETF rejects Obfuscated TCP

2008-08-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > May I ask what you're trying to accomplish? > I assume which uses the TCP connection setup to do a key agreement. Slick but apparently susceptible to DoS. -Michael Heyman - The Cryptography

Re: [p2p-hackers] IETF rejects Obfuscated TCP

2008-08-20 Thread Eric Rescorla
alf Of Lars Eggert > > Sent: August 19, 2008 5:34 PM > > To: David Barrett; theory and practice of decentralized computer > > networks > > Subject: Re: [p2p-hackers] IETF rejects Obfuscated TCP > > > > On 2008-8-19, at 17:20, ext David Barrett wrote: > > &g

RE: [p2p-hackers] IETF rejects Obfuscated TCP

2008-08-20 Thread Alex Pankratov
ice of decentralized computer > networks > Subject: Re: [p2p-hackers] IETF rejects Obfuscated TCP > > On 2008-8-19, at 17:20, ext David Barrett wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 4:19 pm, Lars Eggert wrote: > >> Actually, in 1994, the IETF standardized Transactional TCP (T