Re: Collisions for hash functions: how to exlain them to your boss

2005-06-15 Thread John Kelsey
>From: Eric Rescorla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Jun 14, 2005 9:36 AM >Subject: Re: Collisions for hash functions: how to exlain them to >your boss [Discussing the MD5 attacks and their practicality, especially the recent postscript demonstration.] ... >But everything you&#x

Re: Collisions for hash functions: how to exlain them to your boss

2005-06-14 Thread Eric Rescorla
John Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>From: Eric Rescorla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Jun 13, 2005 5:09 PM >>To: "Weger, B.M.M. de" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Cc: cryptography@metzdowd.com, >> Stefan Lucks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Collisions for hash functions: how to exlain them to your boss

2005-06-14 Thread John Kelsey
>From: Eric Rescorla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Jun 13, 2005 5:09 PM >To: "Weger, B.M.M. de" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: cryptography@metzdowd.com, > Stefan Lucks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Collisions for hash functions: how to exlain them

Re: Collisions for hash functions: how to exlain them to your boss

2005-06-13 Thread Eric Rescorla
"Weger, B.M.M. de" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Technically speaking you're correct, they're signing a program. > But most people, certainly non-techies like Alice's boss, > view postscript (or MS Word, or format that allows macros>) files not as programs but as static > data. In being targete

Re: Collisions for hash functions: how to exlain them to your boss

2005-06-13 Thread Ondrej Mikle
On 6/13/05, Eric Rescorla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While this is a clever idea, I'm not sure that it means what you imply > it means. The primary thing that makes your attack work is that the > victim is signing a program which he is only able to observe mediated > through his viewer. But once

RE: Collisions for hash functions: how to exlain them to your boss

2005-06-13 Thread Weger, B.M.M. de
w: http://www.win.tue.nl/~bdeweger = > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Rescorla > Sent: maandag 13 juni 2005 17:05 > To: Stefan Lucks > Cc: cryptography@metzdowd.com > Subje

Re: Collisions for hash functions: how to exlain them to your boss

2005-06-13 Thread Eric Rescorla
Stefan Lucks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Magnus Daum and myself have generated MD5-collisons for PostScript files: > > http://th.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/people/lucks/HashCollisions/ > > This work is somewhat similar to the work from Mikle and Kaminsky, except > that our colliding files are