Re: Re: Is AES better than RC4

2006-05-25 Thread Joseph Ashwood
- Original Message - From: Ed Gerck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: Is AES better than RC4 Joseph Ashwood wrote: SOP: discard first 100's of bytes This is part of the lack of key agility. Using it securely requires so much in the way of heroic efforts SOP: hash

Re: Is AES better than RC4

2006-05-25 Thread Ed Gerck
the first bytes). Cheers, Ed Gerck Joseph Ashwood wrote: - Original Message - From: Ed Gerck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: Is AES better than RC4 ... - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending

Re: Re: Is AES better than RC4

2006-05-25 Thread Joseph Ashwood
- Original Message - From: Ed Gerck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: Is AES better than RC4 Please note that my email was way different in scope. My opening sentence, where I basically said that it does not make much sense to compare RC4 with AES, was cut in your quote

Re: Is AES better than RC4

2006-05-24 Thread Joseph Ashwood
RC4 should have been retired a decade ago, that it has not is due solely to the undereducated going with whatever's fastest. It's time we allowed RC4 to stay dead. Joe - The Cryptography Mailing List

Re: Is AES better than RC4

2006-05-24 Thread Max
On 5/23/06, James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AES is new, and people keep claiming progress towards breaking it, without however, so far producing any breaks. RC4 is old and has numerous known weaknesses, which are tricky to code around, and have caught many an implementor - notice for

Re: Is AES better than RC4

2006-05-24 Thread Jon Callas
On 23 May 2006, at 3:15 PM, James A. Donald wrote: -- AES is new, and people keep claiming progress towards breaking it, without however, so far producing any breaks. RC4 is old and has numerous known weaknesses, which are tricky to code around, and have caught many an implementor - notice

Re: Is AES better than RC4

2006-05-24 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald AES is new, and people keep claiming progress towards breaking it, without however, so far producing any breaks. RC4 is old and has numerous known weaknesses, which are tricky to code around, and have caught many an implementor - notice for example Wifi. But these

Re: Is AES better than RC4

2006-05-24 Thread James A. Donald
-- Joseph Ashwood wrote: RC4 should have been retired a decade ago, Why? --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG pvLUSroPw35whI+/0Tq1IYPZh/GDEidGMu+4KvZc 4zyBqLBt4fFho62NSUZuECGjiLrFpqppx7lXuvebv

Re: [!! SPAM] Re: Is AES better than RC4

2006-05-24 Thread Joseph Ashwood
- Original Message - From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: Is AES better than RC4 -- Joseph Ashwood wrote: RC4 should have been retired a decade ago, Why? It is in general distuingable from random, actually quite quickly. The first few bytes are so