On 22 May 2007 14:51, Trei, Peter wrote:
In fairness, its worth noting that the issue is also mixed up
in Estonian electoral politics:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6645789.stm
The timing of the electronic attacks, and the messages left by
vandals, leave little doubt that the
Bill Stewart wrote:
- Some teenage hacker who got annoyed at some other teenage hacker
because they got into an argument on WoW or Myspace
and decided to DDOS him
Some years back, I was on the receiving end of this type of scenario
bringing down connectivity for a small
Bill Stewart wrote:
At 01:04 PM 5/18/2007, Trei, Peter wrote:
If the Russians aren't behind this, who else should be suspected? It
isn't like Estonia has a wide selection of enemies. :-)
There are three likely suspects
- the actual Russian government (or some faction thereof)
- Russian
Alex Alten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This may be a bit off the crypto topic, but it is interesting nonetheless.
Russia accused of unleashing cyberwar to disable Estonia
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329864981-103610,00.html
Estonia accuses Russia of 'cyberattack'
At 6:34 PM + 5/20/07, John Levine wrote:
I've heard nothing formal, but my strong understanding is a lot of US
government machines, at least if we're talking workstations on
non-classified nets, are in fact 0wn3d at this point.
Well, here's an anecdote: at last year's CEAS conference,
A while ago, I did a rough calculation that made
me state that 15-30% of all machines are no longer
under the sole control of their owner. In the
intervening months, I got some hate mail on this,
but in those same intervening months Vint Cerf
said 40%, Microsoft said 2/3rds, and IDC said
At 01:04 PM 5/18/2007, Trei, Peter wrote:
If the Russians aren't behind this, who else should be
suspected? It isn't like Estonia has a wide selection of
enemies. :-)
There are three likely suspects
- the actual Russian government (or some faction thereof)
- Russian Mafia for whatever reasons
Ivan Krstić wrote:
I think it's anything but surprising. There's only so much you can do to
significantly improve systems security if you're unwilling to break
backwards compatibility -- many of the fundamental premises of desktop
security are fatally flawed, chief among them the idea that all
I've heard nothing formal, but my strong understanding is a lot of US
government machines, at least if we're talking workstations on
non-classified nets, are in fact 0wn3d at this point.
Well, here's an anecdote: at last year's CEAS conference, Rob Thomas
of Team Cymru gave the keynote on the
Dave Korn wrote:
On 18 May 2007 05:44, Alex Alten wrote:
This may be a bit off the crypto topic,
You betcha!
but it is interesting nonetheless.
Russia accused of unleashing cyberwar to disable Estonia
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329864981-103610,00.html
Estonia accuses Russia
Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. Do you have any particular evidence that any significant
number of US .gov machines are bots? They may well be, just
I haven't heard this.
I've heard nothing formal, but my strong understanding is a lot of US
government machines, at least if we're
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 05:01:03PM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
|
| Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| 1. Do you have any particular evidence that any significant
| number of US .gov machines are bots? They may well be, just
| I haven't heard this.
|
| I've heard nothing formal, but
Perry E. Metzger wrote:
What is interesting to me is that, even though things have nearly
gotten as bad as they could possibly get, we still have seen very
little real effort made to improve systems security (at least in
comparison with what is necessary to make a big dent).
I think it's
This may be a bit off the crypto topic, but it is interesting nonetheless.
Russia accused of unleashing cyberwar to disable Estonia
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329864981-103610,00.html
Estonia accuses Russia of 'cyberattack'
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0517/p99s01-duts.html
- Alex
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On 18 May 2007 05:44, Alex Alten wrote:
This may be a bit off the crypto topic,
You betcha!
but it is interesting nonetheless.
Russia accused of unleashing cyberwar to disable Estonia
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329864981-103610,00.html
Estonia accuses Russia of 'cyberattack'
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