Re: They Said It Couldn't Be Done

2004-09-21 Thread Ian Brown
 [snip HAVA quote and Nevada news]
So unless there is a amendment to that law (that I am obviously unaware 
of) it isn't up to individual States to add this as an additional 
requirement - its already required. perhaps someone could enlighten me?
I believe many e-voting machines meet this requirement by printing out 
a tally of votes *when the election has closed* -- and so the voter 
doesn't get to check that the paper record actually matches the vote 
they intended to cast :(
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Re: They Said It Couldn't Be Done

2004-09-20 Thread Dave Howe
R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Nevada has taken the lead on paper trails not only in its own elections,
but also in Congress. Its senators - John Ensign, a Republican, and Harry
Reid, a Democrat - have co-sponsored the bipartisan Voting Integrity and
Verification Act, one of a number of pending bills that would require that
all electronic voting machines produce voter-verifiable paper trails.
Congress should pass such legislation right away so all Americans can have
the same confidence in their elections as Nevadans now have.
I must admit I am surprised a new law is needed.
Under the Help America Vote Act 2002 electronic voting machines appear 
to have the following audit requirement:

   TITLE III--UNIFORM AND NONDISCRIMINATORY ELECTION TECHNOLOGY AND
  ADMINISTRATION REQUIREMENTS
   Subtitle A--Requirements
SEC. 301. NOTE: 42 USC 15481 VOTING SYSTEMS STANDARDS.
   (a) Requirements.--Each voting system used in an election for
Federal office shall meet the following requirements:
   (2) Audit capacity.--
   (A) In general.--The voting system shall produce a
   record with an audit capacity for such system.
   (B) Manual audit capacity.--
 (i) The voting system shall produce a
 permanent paper record with a manual audit
 capacity for such system.
 (ii) The voting system shall provide the voter
 with an opportunity to change the ballot or
 correct any error before the permanent paper
 record is produced.
 (iii) The paper record produced under
 subparagraph (A) shall be available as an official
 record for any recount conducted with respect to
 any election in which the system is used.
(taken from http://www.fec.gov/hava/law_ext.txt )
So unless there is a amendment to that law (that I am obviously unaware 
of) it isn't up to individual States to add this as an additional 
requirement - its already required. perhaps someone could enlighten me?

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