Re: Why the poor uptake of encrypted email? [Was: Re: Secrets and cell phones.]

2008-12-11 Thread James A. Donald
-- > > We discovered, however, that most people do not want > > to manage their own secrets StealthMonger wrote: > This may help to explain the poor uptake of encrypted > email. There is very good uptake of skype and ssh, because those impose no or very little additional cost on the end

Re: Why the poor uptake of encrypted email? [Was: Re: Secrets and cell phones.]

2008-12-09 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 8 Dec 2008, at 22:43, David G. Koontz wrote: JOHN GALT wrote: StealthMonger wrote: This may help to explain the poor uptake of encrypted email. It would be useful to know exactly what has been discovered. Can you provide references? The iconic Paper explaining this is "Why Johnny Ca

Re: Why the poor uptake of encrypted email? [Was: Re: Secrets and cell phones.]

2008-12-08 Thread David G. Koontz
JOHN GALT wrote: > StealthMonger wrote: > >> This may help to explain the poor uptake of encrypted email. It would >> be useful to know exactly what has been discovered. Can you provide >> references? > > The iconic Paper explaining this is "Why Johnny Can't Encrypt" available > here: http://p

Re: Why the poor uptake of encrypted email? [Was: Re: Secrets and cell phones.]

2008-12-08 Thread JOHN GALT
StealthMonger wrote: > This may help to explain the poor uptake of encrypted email. It would > be useful to know exactly what has been discovered. Can you provide > references? The iconic Paper explaining this is "Why Johnny Can't Encrypt" available here: http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=

Why the poor uptake of encrypted email? [Was: Re: Secrets and cell phones.]

2008-12-08 Thread StealthMonger
"James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Of course, the old cypherpunk dream is a system with end to end > encryption, with individuals having the choice of holding their own > secrets, rather than these secrets being managed by some not very > trusted authority > We discovered, ho