Hi John,
On 18/05/13 03:49 AM, John Levine wrote:
Maybe we will see subpoenas or public hearings for Microsoft and their
Skype.
For what? Skype has kept chat logs for years, and the government
routinely subpoenas them.
Is that a fact? As far as I know, Skype is e2e secure. So Skype
John Levine wrote
For what? Skype has kept chat logs for years, and the government
routinely subpoenas them.
It depends how much scared will become the politicians and decision makers
in Washington DC and Brussels from the latest publicly revealed security
backdoors of Skype.
Danilo!
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Adam Back a...@cypherspace.org wrote:
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 04:52:07AM -0400, bpmcontrol wrote:
On 05/17/2013 04:19 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
It is unreasonable for an closed source product by a commercial
vendor to go any other way [putting backdoors in
As far as I know, Skype is e2e secure.
It hasn't got end-to-end key management, so it can't be end-to-end
secure against the network operator.
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On May 18, 2013, at 6:49 AM, Adam Back a...@cypherspace.org wrote:
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 04:52:07AM -0400, bpmcontrol wrote:
On 05/17/2013 04:19 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
It is unreasonable for an closed source product by a commercial
vendor to go any other way [putting backdoors in security
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 1:24 PM, mark seiden m...@seiden.com wrote:
...
there are numerous other IM systems that are server centric and do a lot of
work
to look for and filter bad urls sent in the message stream.
this is intended to be for the benefit of the users in filtering spam,
Actually I think that was the point, as far as anyone knew and from the last
published semi-independent review (some years ago on the crypto list as I
recall) it indeed was end2end secure. Many IM systems are not end2end so
for skype to benefit from the impression that they still are end2end
Actually I think that was the point, as far as anyone knew and from the last
published semi-independent review (some years ago on the crypto list as I
recall) it indeed was end2end secure.
Skype has never claimed it is end to end secure in fact they have
hinted many times that they can and do
On Sat, 18 May 2013, Adam Back wrote:
Would you expect microsoft IIS web server to contain an SSL backdoor? Or
microsoft VPN client? Or cisco?
Of course they contain backdoors. It's clear from the the US political
and Congressional reaction to the revelations of large-scale NSA domestic
except bad guys will always opt of having their content inspected.
so it just doesn't work in this case.
On May 18, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 1:24 PM, mark seiden m...@seiden.com wrote:
...
there are numerous other IM systems that
Jeffrey Walton wrote:
* Scan IM messages for dangerous content from people you don't know.
This means company will read (and possibly retain) some of your
messages to determine if some (or all) of the message is dangerous.
….
Give an choice, it seems like selection two is a good
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM, mark seiden m...@seiden.com wrote:
except bad guys will always opt of having their content inspected.
Right, that's why it becomes the receiver's option for unknown senders.
If there's an existing relationship between the sender and receiver, I
imagine the rates
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM, mark seiden m...@seiden.com wrote:
opt *out* of… (obviously)
Not possible in many cases. I don't like IM but I have to use it on
occasions for my job.
Ditto for license agreements from handset manufacturers, carriers,
operating systems, business software and the
On May 18, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Ed Stone t...@synernet.com wrote:
Jeffrey Walton wrote:
* Scan IM messages for dangerous content from people you don't know.
This means company will read (and possibly retain) some of your
messages to determine if some (or all) of the message is dangerous.
Obviously a secret is no secret the person sending it is not on your
buddy list.
Conversely, it should not be possible to inspect messages if the person
sending it is on your buddy list.
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On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Jonathan Thornburg
jth...@astro.indiana.edu wrote:
On Sat, 18 May 2013, Adam Back wrote:
Would you expect microsoft IIS web server to contain an SSL backdoor? Or
microsoft VPN client? Or cisco?
Of course they contain backdoors. It's clear from the the US
I was a technical expert in a pump and dump spam trial last fall,
and a large part of the evidence was Skype chat logs among the members
of the spamming group.
Who provided the chat logs? Were they provided by Skype or where they
provided by one or the other members? The reason I ask is
At the risk of sounding rude, crude, and yellow-pressish, I'd like to
provide this link
http://www.themoscownews.com/russia/20130314/191336455/FSB-Russian-police-could-tap-Skype-without--court-order.html
If software has a soul, Skype's is long since sold.
Sincerely yours,
Jane
On Sun, May
Adam Back asked
| Would you expect microsoft IIS web server to contain an SSL backdoor? Or
| microsoft VPN client? Or cisco?
I replied
Of course they contain backdoors. [[...]]
Adam Beck also wrote
| A lot of businesses and individuals are
| relying on these things to do what is advertised.
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