Re: [cryptography] [SSL Observatory] After the dust settles -- what happens next? (v. Long)

2011-09-12 Thread Peter Gutmann
Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org writes: We don't all observe that. Some of us observe a third, more likely approach: nothing significant happens due to this event. The collapse of faith is only among the security folks whose faith was never there in the first place. A week after the event, who

Re: [cryptography] [SSL Observatory] After the dust settles -- what happens next? (v. Long)

2011-09-12 Thread Joe St Sauver
Peter Gutmann pgut...@cs.auckland.ac.nz commented: #[0] I'm being conservative here, in practice I don't recall seeing anyone #expressing faith in PKI, but I didn't read every one of the vast numbers #of comments. Well, I'd suggest that NIST 800-63

Re: [cryptography] [SSL Observatory] After the dust settles -- what happens next? (v. Long)

2011-09-12 Thread Chris Palmer
On Sep 12, 2011, at 2:02 AM, Ian G wrote: (There are likely some Googlers on this list who can speak authoritatively on whether their management are scared as hell or even noticing.) Googlers are unlikely to do so. Google has a firm rule about not discussing business outside the company.

Re: [cryptography] [SSL Observatory] After the dust settles -- what happens next? (v. Long)

2011-09-12 Thread James A. Donald
On 2011-09-13 5:22 AM, Peter Gutmann wrote: Some years ago I predicted that it'd take an Enron-scale catastrophe to finally get browser security fixed. Note that Enron led to Sarbanes Oxley, which mandated a mighty bureaucracy to do even more of what accountants had been doing before Enron.