I'm catching up on this but it's a pretty easy answer.
Say you've implemented a bunch of crypto on your web page via Javascript.
And this is where you went wrong. Don't implement crypto (or anything of
import) client side period (if we are talking web based javascript stuff here).
-Peter
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Peter Thoenen peter.thoe...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm catching up on this but it's a pretty easy answer.
Say you've implemented a bunch of crypto on your web page via Javascript.
And this is where you went wrong. Don't implement crypto (or anything of
import)
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, its not too far fetched. In the mobile arena, I see a number
of in-house browser based apps that can be side-loaded or distributed
through a private or enterprise application store. When using these
Say you've implemented a bunch of crypto on your web page via Javascript.
Someone in North Korea (or Iran, or one of the other export-restricted
nations) visits your site.
You've now exported crypto to a restricted country. What happens next?
Peter.
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Peter Gutmann pgut...@cs.auckland.ac.nz wrote:
Say you've implemented a bunch of crypto on your web page via Javascript.
Someone in North Korea (or Iran, or one of the other export-restricted
nations) visits your site.
You've now exported crypto to a
You've now exported crypto to a restricted country. What happens next?
repl{physicist,
javascripter,
In some sort of crude sense, which no vulgarity, no humor, no
overstatement can quite extinguish, the physicists have known sin; and this is
a knowledge which they cannot lose.
You've now exported crypto to a restricted country. What happens next?
You ask a lawyer or a legislator, not a bunch of amateurs in the subject?
--Paul Hoffman
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Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org writes:
You've now exported crypto to a restricted country. What happens next?
You ask a lawyer or a legislator, not a bunch of amateurs in the subject?
Have you tried asking a lawyer or legislator? Would you say the look you got
in response was more
The entire idea that such countries don't have strong crypto because of the
export restrictions is goofy.
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On 03/03/2013 11:34 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
You've now exported crypto to a restricted country. What happens next?
You ask a lawyer or a legislator, not a bunch of amateurs in the subject?
+1
As someone who personally reviewed hundreds of pages of EAR rules,
applied for and received
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Arshad Noor arshad.n...@strongauth.com wrote:
On 03/03/2013 11:34 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
You've now exported crypto to a restricted country. What happens next?
You ask a lawyer or a legislator, not a bunch of amateurs in the subject?
+1
As someone who
On 03/03/2013 01:41 PM, Adam Back wrote:
Dont tell me you still think you need permission to export RSA in perl to
non-embargoed entities:
Open-source crypto that is downloadable from public-sites has a special
designation in the EAR; you only need to notify the BIS and provide the
download
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Adam Back a...@cypherspace.org wrote:
Unless you're selling SSL MITM boxes to tyrants dictators, then of course
its alright ;) Well maybe they'll turn a blind eye if the West is propping
up that particular tyrant until they flip flop.
Anyway wasnt all that US
The realism of export restricting open source software is utterly ludicrous.
Any self-declaration click-through someone might implement can be clicked
through by anyone, from anywhere, and I presume someone from an embargoed
country is more worried about their own countries laws than US laws, to
On 2013-03-04 8:48 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
Little folks like me have to play by the rules, or risk getting the
Schwartz treatment from folks like Steve Heymann and Carmen Ortiz.
No, we don't have to play by these rules, which our rulers have pretty
much forgotten about.
Swartz penetrated
It is a good thing that Swartz killed himself, like his hero Wallace.
Both of them needed killing.
This is the stupidest thing I have read in a long time. Shut the fuck up.
It is Jewish leftists like Rahm Israel Emanuel that seek the destruction
of Israel.
Israel is disliked in most countries
On 2013-03-04 11:09 AM, Patrick Mylund Nielsen wrote:
Say what you will about the semi-morbid posthumous inflation of Aaron
Swartz contributions and stature, but don't pretend to know what he
thought
I know what Wallace thought and Wallace was evil, insane, and suicidal.
Swartz described
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Open eSignForms yoz...@gmail.com wrote:
The entire idea that such countries don't have strong crypto because of the
export restrictions is goofy.
this can be shorted to: export restrictions [are] goofy
in the last decade the crypto export hassles i have
On 2013-03-04 8:10 AM, Arshad Noor wrote:
I also agree that all this seems irrelevant considering that everyone
has access to strong crypto in one form or another; but, even a stupid
law is still the law.
Much though we long for the glory days when cypherpunks actually were a
persecuted
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