[cryptography] preventing protocol failings

2011-07-04 Thread Sampo Syreeni
(I'm not sure whether I should write anything anytime soon, because of Len Sassaman's untimely demise. He was an idol of sorts to me, as a guy who Got Things Done, while being of comparable age to me. But perhaps it's equally valid to carry on the ideas, as a sort of a nerd eulogy?)

Re: [cryptography] preventing protocol failings

2011-07-04 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Jul 4, 2011, at 7:28 10PM, Sampo Syreeni wrote: (I'm not sure whether I should write anything anytime soon, because of Len Sassaman's untimely demise. He was an idol of sorts to me, as a guy who Got Things Done, while being of comparable age to me. But perhaps it's equally valid to

Re: [cryptography] preventing protocol failings

2011-07-04 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Sampo Syreeni de...@iki.fi wrote: Personally I've slowly come to believe that options within crypto protocols are a *very* bad idea. Overall. I mean, it seems that pretty much all of the effective, real-life security breaches over the past decade have come from

Re: [cryptography] preventing protocol failings

2011-07-04 Thread Jon Callas
On Jul 4, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Sampo Syreeni wrote: (I'm not sure whether I should write anything anytime soon, because of Len Sassaman's untimely demise. He was an idol of sorts to me, as a guy who Got Things Done, while being of comparable age to me. But perhaps it's equally valid to carry