Re: [cryptography] msft skype IM snooping stats PGP/X509 in IM?? (Re: why did OTR succeed in IM?)

2013-03-24 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2013-03-24 14:03:43 +0300 (+0300), ianG wrote: [...] I fully expected that when Microsoft purchased Skype in 2011, it was only a matter of time before it was backdoored. [...] I'll point this out merely because people seem to keep forgetting... remember Kazaa? Remember how it had no qualms

Re: [cryptography] msft skype IM snooping stats PGP/X509 in IM?? (Re: why did OTR succeed in IM?)

2013-03-24 Thread Adam Back
Ian wrote: Are we saying then that the threat on the servers has proven so small that in practice nobody's bothered to push a persistent key mechanism? Or have I got this wrong, and the clients are doing p2p exchange of their ephemeral keys, thus dispersing the risk? Its been a while since I

Re: [cryptography] msft skype IM snooping stats PGP/X509 in IM?? (Re: why did OTR succeed in IM?)

2013-03-24 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Mar 23, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Adam Back a...@cypherspace.org wrote: btw is anyone noticing that apparently skype is both able to eavesdrop on skype calls, now that microsoft coded themselves in a central backdoor, this was initially rumoured, then confirmed somewhat by a Russian police

[cryptography] Here's What Law Enforcement Can Recover From A Seized iPhone

2013-03-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Interesting point below is OS vendors are extracting data for law enforcement. I wonder how they are doing it when other tools fails. (Thanks to JM on another list for the link). http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/02/26/heres-what-law-enforcement-can-recover-from-a-seized-iphone/ You

Re: [cryptography] msft skype IM snooping stats PGP/X509 in IM?? (Re: why did OTR succeed in IM?)

2013-03-24 Thread StealthMonger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steven Bellovin s...@cs.columbia.edu writes: Ever since Microsoft bought the company, these rumors have been floating around. If they're innocent, why would they not issue an unequivocal denial with supporting argument? - -- -- StealthMonger