Re: [cryptography] Opinions on Internet Privacy

2013-09-27 Thread Peter Gutmann
Paul Bakker p.j.bak...@offspark.com writes: So you agree we DO need an additional layer of symmetric and public key encryption, don't you? Six layers might not be enough!! Oh everyone knows that, if it doesn't have the full seven layers then you're not even trying. Peter.

Re: [cryptography] The Compromised Internet

2013-09-27 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 08:12:16PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: The US only applies to itself. Further, over the air, it's noise, the crypto is undetectable and unprovable. And it's (guerilla) software, not physical commercial product. Nor is this the old 'FCC says you can't encrypt ham bands'

[cryptography] What the heck is going on with NIST’s cryptographic standard, SHA-3?

2013-09-27 Thread Eugen Leitl
https://www.cdt.org/blogs/joseph-lorenzo-hall/2409-nist-sha-3 What the heck is going on with NIST’s cryptographic standard, SHA-3? by Joseph Lorenzo Hall [1] September 24, 2013 (Warning: this is a fairly technical post about cryptographic standards setting.) The cryptographic community has

Re: [cryptography] The Compromised Internet

2013-09-27 Thread grarpamp
On 9/27/13, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: I don't see how a ham running a repeater backbone can prevent end to end encryption other than sniffing for traffic and actively disrupting it. I'm not sure tampering with transport is within ham ethics, though they definitely don't understand

Re: [cryptography] Chaos theory

2013-09-27 Thread Kyle Maxwell
Fairly old, but Chaos by James Gleick was a huge influence on me as a young man and has some responsibility for the academic path I chose later. @kylemaxwell On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:17 AM, jamescho...@austin.rr.com wrote: Wolfram's book is about CAs and not chaos/fractals in general. For

Re: [cryptography] The Compromised Internet

2013-09-27 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 01:12:19PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: On 9/27/13, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: I don't see how a ham running a repeater backbone can prevent end to end encryption other than sniffing for traffic and actively disrupting it. I'm not sure tampering with transport is

Re: [cryptography] Chaos theory

2013-09-27 Thread jameschoate
Age has nothing to do with it, the math doesn't change. As or AKNOS, their is actually a lot of controversy over that book and the claims Wolfram makes. Kyle Maxwell ky...@xwell.org wrote: Fairly old, but Chaos by James Gleick was a huge influence on me as a young man and has some

Re: [cryptography] The Compromised Internet

2013-09-27 Thread grarpamp
On 9/27/13, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 01:12:19PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: The mentioned tech has nothing to do with traditional 'ham'. And without the crypto key they can't see it and can't disrupt HamNet/AMPRNet ... Of course they can see it, it's a TCP/IP