[cryptography] new IETF WG on Using TLS in Applications (uta) (was: Re: [Cryptography] Email is unsecurable)

2013-12-11 Thread Stephen Farrell
FYI, I said I'd send a mail back here when that new working group was formed. That's happened now. [1] Probably be a few days at least while folks sign up to the list before stuff starts happening. If you're interested in helping, sign up, write drafts, do all the usual stuff. (If you don't know

Re: [cryptography] Which encryption chips are compromised?

2013-12-11 Thread coderman
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:11 PM, d...@geer.org wrote: * (TS//SI//REL TO USA, FVEY) Complete enabling for [XX] encryption chips used in Virtual Private Network and Web encryption devices. [CCP_9]. For this to be an explicit line item in that document, it has to be special.

Re: [cryptography] Which encryption chips are compromised?

2013-12-11 Thread coderman
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Steve Weis stevew...@gmail.com wrote: ... Ivy Bridge processors are general purpose x86 CPUs. It doesn't make sense to me to refer to it as an encryption chip for web encryption devices. used in Virtual Private Network == PPTP,IPsec,OpenVPN,etc. Web encryption

Re: [cryptography] Which encryption chips are compromised?

2013-12-11 Thread Andy Isaacson
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 06:28:31PM -0800, Steve Weis wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:00 PM, coderman coder...@gmail.com wrote: unredacted: https://peertech.org/dist/nsa-cpp-goals-FY2013-unredact.png Intel Ivy Bridge Is this a guess because Intel Ivy Bridge fits into the redacted

Re: [cryptography] Which encryption chips are compromised?

2013-12-11 Thread coderman
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Andy Isaacson a...@hexapodia.org wrote: ... Since the source document appears to be the same for both, an enterprising DTP jockey could use -clean-1.pdf to tune the document settings precisely, and then use -project.pdf to search for better unredaction