Re: [cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread James A. Donald
On 2014-04-09 00:48, Nico Williams wrote: On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 11:02:50PM -0700, Edwin Chu wrote: I am not openssl expert and here is just my observation. [...] Thanks for this analysis. Sadly, a variable-sized heartbeat payload was probably necessary, at least for the DTLS case: for PMTU

Re: [cryptography] [tor-talk] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread grarpamp
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: >> On 4/7/2014 6:14 PM, grarpamp wrote: >> http://heartbleed.com/ >> Patch your stuff. > Comments / suggestions from those w/ in depth knowledge in this area? How > users should proceed; how to check if sites used (banks, email, retail > sites,

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread tpb-crypto
> Message du 08/04/14 22:18 > De : "ianG" > A : tpb-cry...@laposte.net, cryptogra...@metzdowd.com, > cryptography@randombit.net > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [Cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in > OpenSSL > > On 8/04/2014 21:02 pm, tpb-cry...@laposte.net wrote: > > >

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread mtm
we should probably stop keeping secrets on the internet. (snark snark) marc On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:17 PM, ianG wrote: > On 8/04/2014 21:02 pm, tpb-cry...@laposte.net wrote: > > > You said you control a quite famous bug list. > > > Not me, you might be thinking of the other iang? > > > I shou

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread ianG
On 8/04/2014 21:02 pm, tpb-cry...@laposte.net wrote: > You said you control a quite famous bug list. Not me, you might be thinking of the other iang? > I should not ask this here, but considering the situation we found ourselves > regarding encryption infrastructure abuse from the part of US g

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread ianG
On 8/04/2014 20:33 pm, Nico Williams wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 01:12:25PM -0400, Jonathan Thornburg wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 11:46:49AM +0100, ianG wrote: >>> While everyone's madly rushing around to fix their bits&bobs, I'd >>> encouraged you all to be alert to any evidence of *dam

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread tpb-crypto
> Message du 08/04/14 21:42 > De : "ianG" > A : tpb-cry...@laposte.net, cryptogra...@metzdowd.com, > cryptography@randombit.net > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [Cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in > OpenSSL > > On 8/04/2014 20:18 pm, tpb-cry...@laposte.net wrote: > >> Messa

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:46 AM, ianG wrote: > On 7/04/2014 22:53 pm, Edwin Chu wrote: > ... > E.g., if we cannot show any damages from this breach, it isn't worth > spending a penny on it to fix! Yes, that's outrageous and will be > widely ignored ... but it is economically and scientifically sou

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:18 PM, wrote: >> Message du 08/04/14 18:44 >> De : "ianG" >> >> E.g., if we cannot show any damages from this breach, it isn't worth >> spending a penny on it to fix! Yes, that's outrageous and will be >> widely ignored ... but it is economically and scientifically sound,

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread ianG
On 8/04/2014 20:18 pm, tpb-cry...@laposte.net wrote: >> Message du 08/04/14 18:44 >> De : "ianG" >> >> E.g., if we cannot show any damages from this breach, it isn't worth >> spending a penny on it to fix! Yes, that's outrageous and will be >> widely ignored ... but it is economically and scientif

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 01:12:25PM -0400, Jonathan Thornburg wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 11:46:49AM +0100, ianG wrote: > > While everyone's madly rushing around to fix their bits&bobs, I'd > > encouraged you all to be alert to any evidence of *damages* either > > anecdotally or more firm. By

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread tpb-crypto
> Message du 08/04/14 18:44 > De : "ianG" > > E.g., if we cannot show any damages from this breach, it isn't worth > spending a penny on it to fix! Yes, that's outrageous and will be > widely ignored ... but it is economically and scientifically sound, at > some level. > So, let's wait until an

Re: [cryptography] OTR and XMPP

2014-04-08 Thread Randolph
the alternative to OTR is the echo encryption, as deployed in this client: http://firefloo.sf.net As well offers this client to send Rosetta Encryption over XMPP. That is the second alternative. Please research the library used. Regards 2014-04-08 4:13 GMT+02:00 Pranesh Prakash : > Dear all, > In

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] Github Pages now supports SSL

2014-04-08 Thread Eric Mill
Yeah, it's real terrific. -_- @ITechGeek, my understanding was that SNI was handled at an OS level by WinXP, and no browser would work on it. I could be wrong, I haven't researched it myself. On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Bill Stewart wrote: > At 11:08 AM 4/4/2014, Eric Mill wrote: > >>

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread ianG
On 8/04/2014 18:12 pm, Jonathan Thornburg wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 11:46:49AM +0100, ianG wrote: >> While everyone's madly rushing around to fix their bits&bobs, I'd >> encouraged you all to be alert to any evidence of *damages* either >> anecdotally or more firm. By damages, I mean (a) re

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread Jonathan Thornburg
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 11:46:49AM +0100, ianG wrote: > While everyone's madly rushing around to fix their bits&bobs, I'd > encouraged you all to be alert to any evidence of *damages* either > anecdotally or more firm. By damages, I mean (a) rework needed to > secure, and (b) actual breach into si

Re: [cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 11:02:50PM -0700, Edwin Chu wrote: > I am not openssl expert and here is just my observation. > [...] Thanks for this analysis. Sadly, a variable-sized heartbeat payload was probably necessary, at least for the DTLS case: for PMTU discovery. Once more, a lack of an IDL, s

Re: [cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread shawn wilson
On Apr 8, 2014 2:03 AM, "Edwin Chu" wrote: > > I am not openssl expert and here is just my observation. > > TLS frame messages into length-prefixed "records". Each records has a > 1 byte contentType and a 2 byte record length, followed by the record > content and MAC. > > Heartbeat messages are TL

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in OpenSSL

2014-04-08 Thread ianG
On 7/04/2014 22:53 pm, Edwin Chu wrote: > Hi > > A latest story for OpenSSL > > http://heartbleed.com/ > > The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in the popular OpenSSL > cryptographic software library. This weakness allows stealing the > information protected, under normal co