On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Adam Back a...@cypherspace.org wrote:
But I do think it is a very interesting and pressing research question as
to
whether there are ways to plausibly deniably symmetrically weaken or even
trapdoor weaken DL curve parameters, when the seeds are allowed to look
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 08:47:49AM -0700, Tony Arcieri wrote:
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Adam Back [1]a...@cypherspace.org
wrote:
But I do think it is a very interesting and pressing research question
as to whether there are ways to plausibly deniably symmetrically
weaken
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Adam Back a...@cypherspace.org wrote:
Right but weak parameter arguments are very dangerous - the US national
infrastructure they're supposed to be protecting could be weakened when
someone else finds the weakness.
As the fallout from the Snowden debacle has
On 2013-10-01, at 12:54 PM, Tony Arcieri basc...@gmail.com wrote:
I wouldn't put it past them to intentionally weaken the NIST curves.
This is what has changed. Previously, I believed that they *wouldn’t* try to do
something like that. Now we need to review things in terms of capability.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Jeffrey Goldberg jeff...@goldmark.orgwrote:
On 2013-10-01, at 12:54 PM, Tony Arcieri basc...@gmail.com wrote:
I wouldn't put it past them to intentionally weaken the NIST curves.
This is what has changed. Previously, I believed that they *wouldn’t* try
to do
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Jeffrey Goldberg jeff...@goldmark.orgwrote:
If the NSA had the capability to pick weak curves while covering their
tracks in such a way, why wouldn’t they have pulled the same trick with
Dual_EC_DRBG?
tinfoilhatThey wanted us to think they were incompetent,
On 2013-10-02 06:10, Tony Arcieri wrote:
tinfoilhatThey wanted us to think they were incompetent, so we would
expect that Dual_EC_DRBG was their failed attempt to tamper with a
cryptographic standard, and so we would overlook the more sinister and
subtle attempts to tamper with the NIST
On 2013-10-01, at 3:10 PM, Tony Arcieri basc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Jeffrey Goldberg jeff...@goldmark.org
wrote:
If the NSA had the capability to pick weak curves while covering their tracks
in such a way, why wouldn’t they have pulled the same trick with
