Re: [cryptography] NIST Randomness Beacon

2013-12-21 Thread Joachim Strömbergson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aloha! d...@geer.org wrote: After all that discussion of the randomness beacon, it belatedly occurs to me to ask if anyone has ever applied, even for fun, any of the various tests for randomness to the transmissions from the various shortwave

Re: [cryptography] NIST Randomness Beacon

2013-12-19 Thread dan
After all that discussion of the randomness beacon, it belatedly occurs to me to ask if anyone has ever applied, even for fun, any of the various tests for randomness to the transmissions from the various shortwave numbers stations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_station --dan

Re: [cryptography] NIST Randomness Beacon (andrew cooke) (and Andy Isaacson, et al.)

2013-11-13 Thread Joshua Kingsolver Price
@randombit.net Subject: Re: [cryptography] NIST Randomness Beacon Message-ID: 20131110081533.gh24...@acooke.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii the idea of a service that provides data unknown before a certain date (like a photo of a recent newspaper) was suggested here - http

Re: [cryptography] NIST Randomness Beacon (andrew cooke) (and Andy Isaacson, et al.)

2013-11-13 Thread Natanael
: andrew cooke and...@acooke.org To: d.nix d@comcast.net Cc: cypherpu...@cpunks.org, cryptogra...@metzdowd.com, cryptography@randombit.net cryptography@randombit.net Subject: Re: [cryptography] NIST Randomness Beacon Message-ID: 20131110081533.gh24...@acooke.org Content-Type: text/plain

Re: [cryptography] NIST Randomness Beacon

2013-11-11 Thread CodesInChaos
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Andy Isaacson a...@hexapodia.org wrote: For example, suppose you use the low bits of the bitcoin blockchain hash. An attacker with 10% of the hash power could probabilistically attack such a system by chosing blocks with a specific value in those bits; This

Re: [cryptography] NIST Randomness Beacon

2013-11-11 Thread Warren Kumari
On Nov 10, 2013, at 3:15 AM, andrew cooke and...@acooke.org wrote: the idea of a service that provides data unknown before a certain date (like a photo of a recent newspaper) was suggested here - http://rachelbythebay.com/w/2012/08/29/info/ Ok, so the take a photo of the victim with

Re: [cryptography] NIST Randomness Beacon

2013-11-11 Thread Natanael
Proof-of-work, just like Bitcoin itself uses for hashing? See hashcash as well. Require that the message in question is hashed together with a random value, with an output that matches a given pattern. And specify that one part of the message has to be the hash of a Bitcoin block from the given

Re: [cryptography] NIST Randomness Beacon

2013-11-10 Thread andrew cooke
the idea of a service that provides data unknown before a certain date (like a photo of a recent newspaper) was suggested here - http://rachelbythebay.com/w/2012/08/29/info/ for fun, i implemented that here - http://colorlessgreen.net/ (the random value is updated every 5 secs, roughly, and

Re: [cryptography] NIST Randomness Beacon

2013-11-10 Thread Andy Isaacson
On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 08:28:17PM -0800, d.nix wrote: surely someone here has an opinion... http://www.nist.gov/itl/csd/ct/nist_beacon.cfm From the page, a relevant suggestion: WARNING: DO NOT USE BEACON GENERATED VALUES AS SECRET CRYPTOGRAPHIC KEYS. The Beacon is a

Re: [cryptography] NIST Randomness Beacon

2013-11-09 Thread jd.cypherpu...@gmail.com
surely someone here has an opinion... http://www.nist.gov/itl/csd/ct/nist_beacon.cfm :-) Sure. No trust in NIST no more. Thanks. --Michael ___ cryptography mailing list cryptography@randombit.net