Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-24 Thread Florian Weimer
> 2. Score another 1 up for interpreted languages that handle array > allocation cleanly. This is more or less a buffer overflow, in a wider > sense. Virtually the same bug can occur (and has occurred) in memory-safe languages due to buffer reuse. Go was mentioned elsewhere in this thread, so l

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-12 Thread Arshad Noor
On 04/12/2014 08:59 AM, d...@geer.org wrote: > I'm guessing open source just makes it more likely the bug will > eventually be published. If one assumes that failures will happen, then open source is to be preferred insofar as in that case (the collective) we can learn something from said f

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-12 Thread Arshad Noor
On 04/12/2014 08:33 AM, ianG wrote: Open source makes this *everyone at risk*. I would argue that a single closed-source operating system has done more damage, cumulatively, over the last 20 years than all FOSS combined (no hard evidence, just gut-instinct and personal observations). But the

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-12 Thread dan
> I'm guessing open source just makes it more likely the bug will > eventually be published. If one assumes that failures will happen, then open source is to be preferred insofar as in that case (the collective) we can learn something from said failures. That being so, then the more one depend

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-12 Thread ianG
On 11/04/2014 19:36 pm, Arshad Noor wrote: > On 04/11/2014 03:51 PM, ianG wrote: >> On 11/04/2014 17:50 pm, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >>> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-11/nsa-said-to-have-used-heartbleed-bug-exposing-consumers.html >>> >>> >>> The U.S. National Security Agency knew for at least

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-12 Thread Lee
On 4/11/14, ianG wrote: > On 11/04/2014 17:50 pm, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-11/nsa-said-to-have-used-heartbleed-bug-exposing-consumers.html >> >> The U.S. National Security Agency knew for at least two years about a >> flaw in the way that many websites send se

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-12 Thread Michael Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/04/14 23:51, ianG wrote: > 2. Score another 1 up for interpreted languages that handle array > allocation cleanly. This is more or less a buffer overflow, in a > wider sense. Not just interpreted languages - a modern compiled language such

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-11 Thread David I. Emery
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 04:36:13PM -0700, Arshad Noor wrote: > Isn't that a naive assumption? Every US-based company that has anything > to do with crypto has to send in their source-code to a special address > before you can be granted a License Exception (US BIS rules) to export > to foreign cus

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-11 Thread Arshad Noor
On 04/11/2014 03:51 PM, ianG wrote: On 11/04/2014 17:50 pm, Jeffrey Walton wrote: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-11/nsa-said-to-have-used-heartbleed-bug-exposing-consumers.html The U.S. National Security Agency knew for at least two years about a flaw in the way that many websites send s

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-11 Thread ianG
On 11/04/2014 17:50 pm, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-11/nsa-said-to-have-used-heartbleed-bug-exposing-consumers.html > > The U.S. National Security Agency knew for at least two years about a > flaw in the way that many websites send sensitive information, now > dub

Re: [cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-11 Thread shawn wilson
So I trust EFF's analysis more here. However this is newer than the latest article I've seen from EFF. So, where's Bloomberg's technical analysis on the subject? On Apr 11, 2014 5:50 PM, "Jeffrey Walton" wrote: > > http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-11/nsa-said-to-have-used-heartbleed-bug-expo

[cryptography] NSA Said to Exploit Heartbleed Bug for Intelligence for Years

2014-04-11 Thread Jeffrey Walton
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-11/nsa-said-to-have-used-heartbleed-bug-exposing-consumers.html The U.S. National Security Agency knew for at least two years about a flaw in the way that many websites send sensitive information, now dubbed the Heartbleed bug, and regularly used it to gather