Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-06-02 Thread grarpamp
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Cathal (phone) cathalgar...@cathalgarvey.me wrote: What about streaming, which is increasingly used to hold power to account in real time? Or other rich, necessarily large media which needs to *get out fast*? Big media isn't always frivolous. Even frivolity is

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-06-01 Thread grarpamp
In May 2014 someone wrote: p2p is no panacea, it doesn't scale I believe it could. Even if requiring super aggregating nodes of some sort. Layers of service of the whole DHT space. More research is surely required. It is not possible to have fast p2p unless: - Cable networks collaborate

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-06-01 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:01 AM, tpb-cry...@laposte.net wrote: pesky to/from/subject/etc headers. Those are hidden by use of TLS. weaknesses intrinsic to SMTP discussions? Yes, they are hidden in TLS transport on the wire. No, they are not hidden in core or on disk at the intermediate

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-06-01 Thread tpb-crypto
the trick. Message du 02/06/14 03:45 De : Cathal (phone) A : tpb-cry...@laposte.net, tpb-cry...@laposte.net, grarpamp , p2p-hack...@zim.maski.org Copie à : cypherpu...@cpunks.org, cryptography@randombit.net Objet : Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution What about

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-05-16 Thread tpb-crypto
Message du 16/05/14 02:26 De : grarpamp A : p2p-hack...@lists.zooko.com Copie à : cypherpu...@cpunks.org, cryptography@randombit.net Objet : Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution pesky to/from/subject/etc headers. Oh boy, here we go. Those are hidden by use

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-05-15 Thread tpb-crypto
Message du 13/05/14 05:55 De : grarpamp A : cypherpu...@cpunks.org Copie à : p2p-hack...@lists.zooko.com, cryptography@randombit.net Objet : Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:49 AM, rysiek wrote: Dnia wtorek, 22 kwietnia 2014 20:58:50

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-05-15 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:36 AM, tpb-cry...@laposte.net wrote: - Email is entrenched in the offices, many a business is powered by it; They are powered by authorized access to and useful end use of message content, not by email. That's not going anywhere, only the intermediate transport is

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-05-15 Thread tpb-crypto
Oh boy, here we go. Message du 15/05/14 23:14 De : grarpamp http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/05/good-news-for-privacy-fewer-servers-sending-e-mail-naked-facebook-finds/ I think that answers your concern about SMTP transport in the clear Yes, great, we're now moving towards strict

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-05-15 Thread grarpamp
pesky to/from/subject/etc headers. Oh boy, here we go. Those are hidden by use of TLS. Have you not been following the weaknesses intrinsic to SMTP discussions? Yes, they are hidden in TLS transport on the wire. No, they are not hidden in core or on disk at the intermediate and final message

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-05-12 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:49 AM, rysiek rys...@hackerspace.pl wrote: Dnia wtorek, 22 kwietnia 2014 20:58:50 tpb-cry...@laposte.net pisze: Although technical solutions are feasible Then do it and see what happens. we ought to consider some things: - Email is older than the web itself; So is

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-04-24 Thread Randolph
This thread pertains specifically to the use of P2P/DHT models to replace traditional email as we know it today. *Anonymous Email based on virtual institutions* What about this model? In a network you send your public email encryption key to an virtual institution. The institution is defined

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-04-24 Thread tpb-crypto
Message du 22/04/14 20:30 De : Randolph This thread pertains specifically to the use of P2P/DHT models to replace traditional email as we know it today. *Anonymous Email based on virtual institutions* What about this model? In a network you send your public email encryption key to

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-01-09 Thread grarpamp
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 5:09 AM, danimoth danim...@cryptolab.net wrote: On 24/12/13 at 04:20am, grarpamp wrote: This thread pertains specifically to the use of P2P/DHT models to replace traditional email as we know it today. There was a former similarly named thread on this that diverged...

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2013-12-26 Thread Randolph
Hi Garpamp and Adrelanos, I agree with you too!.. as I am not affiliated with BitMail, .. all that is needed, you request. It seems to be a model like waste.sf.net out as a reference. The difference maybe is, I tried to evalute it, and we could share experience. Anyway.., it is definately a p2p

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2013-12-25 Thread Randolph
Anyone looked at BitMail p2p ? http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitmail/?source=directory 2013/12/24 grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com This thread pertains specifically to the use of P2P/DHT models to replace traditional email as we know it today. Pasting in a very rough and unflowing thread summary

[cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2013-12-25 Thread grarpamp
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Jeremie Miller jeremie.mil...@gmail.com wrote: This thread seems pretty immense and in various places, what's the best way to contribute to it? I'm pretty keen on the topic, been working on /real/ p2p infrastructure for 5+ years now :) I'm not sure that it

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2013-12-25 Thread grarpamp
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Randolph rdohm...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone looked at BitMail p2p ? http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitmail/?source=directory re: bitmail, goldbug, etc. With all due respect, I doubt few here have or will anytime soon. You spam out links to binaries no one's

[cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2013-12-24 Thread grarpamp
This thread pertains specifically to the use of P2P/DHT models to replace traditional email as we know it today. There was a former similarly named thread on this that diverged... from the concept and challenge of P2P/DHT handling the transport and lookups... back to more traditional models. This

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2013-12-24 Thread Natanael
Somebody in there mentioned allowing IPv6 addressing on top of I2P/Tor. That would be Garlicat/Onioncat. It creates a local virtual IPv6 network interface for your software to use, so that you can map key based addresses to routable local addresses. https://www.onioncat.org/about-onioncat/ -

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2013-12-24 Thread grarpamp
More summary pasting... / Someone... / There are people I know who do not mind the extra steps for pgp. I / certainly want to get the roll out to use and test and enjoy. Sign me / up. grarpamp... Encryption is only part of it. There's transport, elimination of central storage, anonymity, p2p,

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2013-12-24 Thread danimoth
On 24/12/13 at 04:20am, grarpamp wrote: Once you know the address (node crypto key), you put it 'To: key', mua hands to spool, p2p daemon reads spool, looks up key in DHT and sends msg off across the transport to the far key (node) when it is reachable. In these months there was a lot of

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2013-12-24 Thread danimoth
On 24/12/13 at 04:20am, grarpamp wrote: This thread pertains specifically to the use of P2P/DHT models to replace traditional email as we know it today. There was a former similarly named thread on this that diverged... from the concept and challenge of P2P/DHT handling the transport and

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2013-12-24 Thread grarpamp
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 5:09 AM, danimoth danim...@cryptolab.net wrote: A problem which could rise is the 'incentive' for peers to continuosly providing bandwidth and disk space to store messages. I'm a simple dude, with a mailflow of ~5 email per day. Why I should work for you, with your

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2013-12-24 Thread grarpamp
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 5:03 AM, Natanael natanae...@gmail.com wrote: Somebody in there mentioned allowing IPv6 addressing on top of I2P/Tor. That would be Garlicat/Onioncat. It creates a local virtual IPv6 network interface for your software to use, so that you can map key based addresses to

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2013-12-24 Thread grarpamp
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 5:01 AM, danimoth danim...@cryptolab.net wrote: In these months there was a lot of talking about metadata, which SMTP exposes regardless of encryption or authentication. In the design of this p2p system, should metadata's problem kept in consideration or not? IMHO