How to ban crypto?

2001-09-16 Thread Peter Fairbrother
to embed this functionality in a virus. Certainly it could be included in freeware available on the 'net. I've also been looking at the possibility of steganographically hiding functionality, and while I can't do it yet, I'm convinced it could be done. Any other suggestions for how to ban crypto? I can't

Re: How to ban crypto?

2001-09-16 Thread Axel H Horns
On 16 Sep 2001, at 17:26, Peter Fairbrother wrote: Any other suggestions for how to ban crypto? I can't think of anything that would actually work against terrorists. Hmmm... we should be careful not to restrict the discussion of potential (non-)effects of coming restrictive legislative

Re: How to ban crypto?

2001-09-16 Thread Carl Ellison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 05:26 PM 9/16/2001 +0100, Peter Fairbrother wrote: Bin-Laden was at one time said to use stego in posted images for comms. I heard that restated today on NPR by an ex-FBI commentator. I think it is ironic that Congress passed a law a while ago

Re: How to ban crypto?

2001-09-16 Thread Angelos D. Keromytis
In message 3.0.5.32.20010916141240.01b7eee0@localhost, Carl Ellison writes: At 05:26 PM 9/16/2001 +0100, Peter Fairbrother wrote: Bin-Laden was at one time said to use stego in posted images for comms. I heard that restated today on NPR by an ex-FBI commentator. I think it is ironic that

Re: How to ban crypto?

2001-09-16 Thread Sam Weiler
On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Angelos D. Keromytis wrote: Niels Provos (U. of Michigan) has a very interesting paper on detecting steganography on the network (he talked about it during the USENIX Sec. WIP session). Basically, he didn't find any steganography in about 2 million images he tested on

Re: How to ban crypto?

2001-09-16 Thread John Denker
At 06:58 PM 9/16/01 +0200, Axel H Horns wrote: During the past years I managed to convince a handful of clients and colleagues to make use of PGP in order to protect confidential information when sending e-mail messages. Of course, if PGP would be banned in Germany by some legislation I would

Re: How to ban crypto?

2001-09-16 Thread Angelos D. Keromytis
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sam Weiler writes: That (excellent) paper was in the refereed track, not the WiPs: http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/sec01/provos.html http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/provos/stego/ http://www.outguess.org/ The above URLs point to the first