Re: Shades of FV's Nathaniel Borenstein: Carnivore's Magic Lantern

2001-11-23 Thread pasward
Jay Sulzberger writes: On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay Sulzberger writes: On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: R. A. Hettinga writes: Everyone remember First Virtual's Nat Borenstein's major discovery of the keyboard

Re: Shades of FV's Nathaniel Borenstein: Carnivore's Magic Lantern

2001-11-23 Thread pasward
Jay D. Dyson writes: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet another reason why Open Source is your friend. I did not mean to imply that I am running some variety of windows. I am interested in the technical problem of

Re: Shades of FV's Nathaniel Borenstein: Carnivore's Magic Lantern

2001-11-23 Thread pasward
Jay D. Dyson writes: On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But this doesn't really address the question. Certainly you take various precautions. The question is: how can I know if the system is compromised? There's a wealth of utilities that can indicate system

Shades of FV's Nathaniel Borenstein: Carnivore's Magic Lantern

2001-11-21 Thread pasward
R. A. Hettinga writes: Everyone remember First Virtual's Nat Borenstein's major discovery of the keyboard logger? 'Magic Lantern' part of new 'Enhanced Carnivore Project' [etc] In the same vein, but a different application, does anyone know what the state of the art is for detecting

Re: Shades of FV's Nathaniel Borenstein: Carnivore's Magic Lantern

2001-11-21 Thread pasward
Kent Borg writes: On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:40:11AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the same vein, but a different application, does anyone know what the state of the art is for detecting such tampering? In particular, when sitting at a PC doing banking, is there any mechanism by

Re: Shades of FV's Nathaniel Borenstein: Carnivore's Magic Lantern

2001-11-21 Thread Greg Broiles
At 10:40 AM 11/21/2001 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the same vein, but a different application, does anyone know what the state of the art is for detecting such tampering? In particular, when sitting at a PC doing banking, is there any mechanism by which a user can know that the PC is not

Re: Shades of FV's Nathaniel Borenstein: Carnivore's Magic Lantern

2001-11-21 Thread Jay Sulzberger
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: R. A. Hettinga writes: Everyone remember First Virtual's Nat Borenstein's major discovery of the keyboard logger? 'Magic Lantern' part of new 'Enhanced Carnivore Project' [etc] In the same vein, but a different application, does

Re: Shades of FV's Nathaniel Borenstein: Carnivore's Magic Lantern

2001-11-21 Thread pasward
Jay Sulzberger writes: On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: R. A. Hettinga writes: Everyone remember First Virtual's Nat Borenstein's major discovery of the keyboard logger? 'Magic Lantern' part of new 'Enhanced Carnivore Project' [etc] In