Re: EC Plans Cybersecurity Agency (Fwd)

2003-02-12 Thread Stefan Kelm
 fyi EUROPEAN COMMISSION PLANS CYBERSECURITY AGENCY

There's more information at the official site:

  http://europa.eu.int/eeurope

Cheers,

Stefan.
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Re: Columbia crypto box

2003-02-12 Thread Greg Rose
At 10:43 PM 2/11/2003 -0800, Bill Frantz wrote:

I wrote:
(IIRC, basically what the device did was reveal 16 bits of a DES key.)

It has been pointed out to me that they were even more clever than that.
(This technique could allow a dictionary attack on known/probable plain
text.)  What they did instead was, take a 56 bit DES key through a one way 
function, zero certain bits so only 40 are variable, take the result 
through another one way function, and use the result as a DES key for 
encryption.

For details see US patent 5,323,464: 
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=/netahtml/search-bool.htmlr=47f=Gl=50co1=ANDd=ptxts1=Matyas.INZZ.OS=IN/MatyasRS=IN/Matyas

This *still* allows a dictionary attack; in fact, it allows a more powerful 
one than revealing 16 bits of the key does.

If you just reveal 16 bits of the key, then an adversary either needs to 
store 2^56 dictionary entries, or enumerate 2^40 keys.

If you do as CDMF does, there are effectively only 2^40 possible 56-bit 
keys; these can be precomputed and stored on eg. tape. (7.5 terabytes, well 
within tape library range 10 years ago.) So you can *still* brute force the 
keys just as easily, noting that all this really does is avoid two hash 
function invokations per key. More, though, you can now compute and store 
(in comparable tape space) the dictionary, so CDMF *does* allow a 
precomputed dictionary attack that requires only storage for 2^40 
dictionary entries (whatever size they are).

So CDMF isn't that neat, really...

Greg.


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Stupid security measures, a contest

2003-02-12 Thread Adam Shostack
Human rights watchdog Privacy International has launched a quest to
find the World's Most Stupid Security Measure. 


http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/29279.html


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Re: Stupid security measures, a contest

2003-02-12 Thread John Kelsey
At 10:11 AM 2/12/03 -0500, Adam Shostack wrote:

Human rights watchdog Privacy International has launched a quest to
find the World's Most Stupid Security Measure. 


I can't imagine this is the stupidest, but there's a state office building 
in Missouri where (no doubt due to some Directive From On High), they've 
put up a wooden shack in front of the main entrance, where anyone going in 
or out has to pass through a metal detector.  The wooden shack isn't 
directly in front of the entrance, however--probably, that would make life 
too hard on the smokers, who now have to go outside to smoke.  It's more 
like about 50' in front of it, completely unconnected to the building.

The really entertaining bit is that, since most people going into the 
building are basically law abiding (state employees), most people seem to 
go through the shack and get checked for weapons, rather than around the 
shack to save time.

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