Re: Another shining example of Microsoft "security".

2001-04-24 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 03:31:21PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 05:11:21AM -0400, vertigo wrote: > > > Pine has SSL patches? :) It's plain old pine within > > > an SSH session for me. > > > > Yeah - they implement IMAP-o

Re: Another shining example of Microsoft "security".

2001-04-24 Thread beldridg
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 05:11:21AM -0400, vertigo wrote: > > Pine has SSL patches? :) It's plain old pine within > > an SSH session for me. > > Yeah - they implement IMAP-over-SSL, with the aforementioned > limitation. i'd recommend using stunnel + f

Re: Another shining example of Microsoft "security".

2001-04-23 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 05:11:21AM -0400, vertigo wrote: > Pine has SSL patches? :) It's plain old pine within > an SSH session for me. Yeah - they implement IMAP-over-SSL, with the aforementioned limitation. > > The Pine SSL patches also don't do any validity checking of > > certificates, AFA

Re: Another shining example of Microsoft "security".

2001-04-23 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 05:44:55PM -0400, vertigo wrote: > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Enzo Michelangeli wrote: > > > Besides, the fact that many users don't check the validity of the certs > > presented by the other side is a disgrace, and should not be encouraged by > > distributing broken software. >

Re: Another shining example of Microsoft "security".

2001-04-20 Thread vertigo
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Enzo Michelangeli wrote: > Besides, the fact that many users don't check the validity of the certs > presented by the other side is a disgrace, and should not be encouraged by > distributing broken software. It certainly should not be encouraged. The fact remains that infor

Re: Another shining example of Microsoft "security".

2001-04-20 Thread vertigo
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Enzo Michelangeli wrote: > Why? Proxies for HTTPS do not touch the encrypted data Ours did. I don't know if Lycos still uses the software, but it was not an HTTP proxy. Lycos, for example, had a link to The Gap on their shopping page. The HREF was something like 'proxy.ly

Re: Another shining example of Microsoft "security".

2001-04-20 Thread Enzo Michelangeli
quot;Enzo Michelangeli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: Re: Another shining example of Microsoft "security". > Not that anyone checks the validity of their certs anyway. > There are a

Re: Another shining example of Microsoft "security".

2001-04-20 Thread vertigo
Not that anyone checks the validity of their certs anyway. There are a couple of companies with url-rewriting proxies who are able to pay (or used to pay) their programmers because of this lack of concern. Actually, this sounds almost like a feature (i.e. "Accept all certs", "Accept only certs tha

Another shining example of Microsoft "security"

2001-04-19 Thread Enzo Michelangeli
I don't know if anybody already noticed, but Outlook Express (at least the version 5.5) blindly accepts any server certificate presented by a pop3s (POP3 over SSL) server, without trying to validate it against a locally-stored parent cert. This implies, for example, that roaming users won't be abl