Re: Challenge to TCPA/Palladium detractors

2002-08-12 Thread bear
On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, AARG!Anonymous wrote: It's likely that only a limited number of compiler configurations would be in common use, and signatures on the executables produced by each of those could be provided. Then all the app writer has to do is to tell people, get compiler version

Re: Challenge to TCPA/Palladium detractors

2002-08-10 Thread R. Hirschfeld
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 19:30:09 -0700 From: AARG!Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re the debate over whether compilers reliably produce identical object (executable) files: The measurement and hashing in TCPA/Palladium will probably not be done on the file itself, but on the executable content

Re: Challenge to TCPA/Palladium detractors

2002-08-10 Thread Russell Nelson
AARG!Anonymous writes: I'd like the Palladium/TCPA critics to offer an alternative proposal for achieving the following technical goal: Allow computers separated on the internet to cooperate and share data and computations such that no one can get access to the data outside the

Re: Challenge to TCPA/Palladium detractors

2002-08-09 Thread AARG!Anonymous
Anon wrote: You could even have each participant compile the program himself, but still each app can recognize the others on the network and cooperate with them. Matt Crawford replied: Unless the application author can predict the exact output of the compilers, he can't issue a signature on

RE: Challenge to TCPA/Palladium detractors

2002-08-09 Thread Lucky Green
Anonymous wrote: Matt Crawford replied: Unless the application author can predict the exact output of the compilers, he can't issue a signature on the object code. The compilers then have to be inside the trusted base, checking a signature on the source code and reflecting it somehow

Re: Challenge to TCPA/Palladium detractors

2002-08-09 Thread AARG!Anonymous
Re the debate over whether compilers reliably produce identical object (executable) files: The measurement and hashing in TCPA/Palladium will probably not be done on the file itself, but on the executable content that is loaded into memory. For Palladium it is just the part of the program

Re: Challenge to TCPA/Palladium detractors

2002-08-08 Thread R. Hirschfeld
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:50:29 -0700 From: AARG!Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like the Palladium/TCPA critics to offer an alternative proposal for achieving the following technical goal: Allow computers separated on the internet to cooperate and share data and computations such

Re: Challenge to TCPA/Palladium detractors

2002-08-08 Thread R. Hirschfeld
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 21:55:40 +0200 From: R. Hirschfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:50:29 -0700 From: AARG!Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like the Palladium/TCPA critics to offer an alternative proposal for achieving the following technical goal: Allow