Re: Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End

2001-09-03 Thread Jaap-Henk Hoepman
On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 17:55:35 +0200 Seth David Schoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Later in your message you mentioned the need for > > Dan Geer writes: > > containers that encapsulate content, > > in order to enforce control of information. > > On the technological side, privacy-protecting tec

Re: Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End

2001-09-01 Thread Seth David Schoen
Dan Geer writes: > [ Pardon the delay; my e-mail home > base of record is disintegrating > plus I travel for a living. ] > > > > Thanks to all who remarked on-list or off. > > Yes, I am being simple but I think not simplistic, and I will > be as brief as I can. > > Information can and mu

Re: Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End

2001-09-01 Thread Dan Geer
[ Pardon the delay; my e-mail home base of record is disintegrating plus I travel for a living. ] Thanks to all who remarked on-list or off. Yes, I am being simple but I think not simplistic, and I will be as brief as I can. Information can and must be owned as property. If we depart o

Re: Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End

2001-08-31 Thread Ian BROWN
Dan Geer wrote: >You only get an even number of {privacy, copyright} -- either the >owner of information controls how it is used or he does not. Either >you embrace copyright-and-privacy, or you embrace neither. Not sure I agree, because of the scope of initial and subsequent distribution and

Re: Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End

2001-08-31 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Dan Geer wrote: > >> Content control is a dead end. > >Folks, > >You only get an even number of {privacy, copyright} -- either the >owner of information controls how it is used or he does not. Either >you embrace copyright-and-privacy, or you embrace neither. > >It reall

Re: Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End

2001-08-31 Thread Paul Crowley
Dan Geer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You only get an even number of {privacy, copyright} -- either the > owner of information controls how it is used or he does not. Either > you embrace copyright-and-privacy, or you embrace neither. A tempting but false proposition, on two grounds. First, pr

Re: Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End

2001-08-31 Thread Seth David Schoen
Dan Geer writes: > > Content control is a dead end. > > Folks, > > You only get an even number of {privacy, copyright} -- either the > owner of information controls how it is used or he does not. Either > you embrace copyright-and-privacy, or you embrace neither. > > It really is time to be

Re: Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End

2001-08-31 Thread Adam Shostack
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 11:19:31PM -0400, Dan Geer wrote: | > Content control is a dead end. | You only get an even number of {privacy, copyright} -- either the | owner of information controls how it is used or he does not. Either | you embrace copyright-and-privacy, or you embrace neither. |

Re: Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End

2001-08-30 Thread Dan Geer
> Content control is a dead end. Folks, You only get an even number of {privacy, copyright} -- either the owner of information controls how it is used or he does not. Either you embrace copyright-and-privacy, or you embrace neither. It really is time to be careful what you ask for. --dan

Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End

2001-08-29 Thread R. A. Hettinga
ion: Real Measures Subject: Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sending this because I am looking for concerned individuals who understand the importance of the following cause: Content control is a dead end. The legal tradition