Re: Dutch defense minister warns other countries have Echelon-type spy networks
On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 11:39:01PM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: I couldn't find the document, but Ulf was kind enough to forward me the PDF file, which I've placed online: http://www.politechbot.com/docs/echelon-nl.0101.pdf This document describes the technical aspects of communication systems and their vulnerability to eavesdropping in general. It then goes on to describe the current and proposed laws regarding eavesdropping by the law enforcement agencies and intelligence agencies. The question whether "Echelon" exists, is _not_ officially answered by the Dutch minister of defense. He just notes that according to Duncan Campbell's "Interception Capabilities 2000" report and other open sources, a large scale interception system exists. He explicitly denies that the Dutch government has insider knowledge of the existance of Echelon, but does note that the Dutch government operates under the assumption that these kind of systems exist. So in short, claiming the Dutch government warns others about the existance of Echelon or equivelent systems is not correct. -Declan Wouter Slegers PGP signature
Re: Dutch defense minister warns other countries have Echelon-type spy networks
I couldn't find the document, but Ulf was kind enough to forward me the PDF file, which I've placed online: http://www.politechbot.com/docs/echelon-nl.0101.pdf -Declan On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 02:46:53AM +0100, Ulf Mller wrote: [I haven't seen the original documents, so consider this only a rumor at this point. Anyone have more info? -- John] http://parlando.sdu.nl/cgi/showdoc/doc/anonymous:62665/4/0/KST50892.pdf/0/KST50892.pdf (I don't know if that is a permanent URL. If not, search for document number 27591, nr. 1 at http://www.parlement.nl/doc/parlando/hfdframe/par001.htm .) It's in Dutch, obviously.
Re: Dutch defense minister warns other countries have Echelon-type spy networks
[I haven't seen the original documents, so consider this only a rumor at this point. Anyone have more info? -- John] http://parlando.sdu.nl/cgi/showdoc/doc/anonymous:62665/4/0/KST50892.pdf/0/KST50892.pdf (I don't know if that is a permanent URL. If not, search for document number 27591, nr. 1 at http://www.parlement.nl/doc/parlando/hfdframe/par001.htm .) It's in Dutch, obviously.
Re: Dutch defense minister warns other countries have Echelon-type spy networks
- Original Message - From: "John Gilmore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 7:52 AM Subject: Dutch defense minister warns other countries have Echelon-type spy networks [I haven't seen the original documents, so consider this only a rumor at this point. Anyone have more info? -- John] This German site has two articles (in English) on this matter: http://www.heise.de/tp/english/inhalt/te/4729/1.html http://www.heise.de/tp/english/inhalt/te/4747/1.html Enzo
