Re: The future of security

2004-05-31 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 12:36:53PM -0700, bear wrote: > The bigger problem is that webs of trust don't work. > They're a fine idea, but the fact is that nobody keeps > track of the individual trust relationships or who signed > a key; few people even bother to find out whether there's > a path of

Re: Yahoo releases internet standard draft for using DNS as public key server

2004-05-31 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.05.30.0515 +0200]: > > - The infrastructure is not there. Two standards compete for > > email cryptography, and both need an infrastructure to back > > them up. > > Two standards? DomainKeys and what else? I meant PGP and S/MIME But

Re: Yahoo releases internet standard draft for using DNS as public key server

2004-05-31 Thread Ed Gerck
Russell Nelson wrote: > also sprach Ed Gerck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.05.28.1853 +0200]: > > It's "industry support". We know what it means: multiple, > > conflicting approaches, slow, fragmented adoption --> will not > > work. In other words change. If you have any alternatives to chan

Re: Yahoo releases internet standard draft for using DNS as public key server

2004-05-31 Thread Peter Gutmann
Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It would be better if the solution does NOT need industry > > > support at all, only user support. It should use what is already > > > available. > >This is the point in the script at which I laugh at you, Ed. S/MIME and PGP >have been available fo

Re: Yahoo releases internet standard draft for using DNS as public key server

2004-05-31 Thread Russell Nelson
Peter Gutmann writes: > STARTTLS If Alice and Cathy both implement STARTTLS, and Beatty does not, and Beatty handles email which is ultimately sent to Cathy, then STARTTLS accomplishes nothing. If Uma and Wendy implement DomainKeys, and Violet does not, and Violet handles email which is ultimate

Re: The future of security

2004-05-31 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 12:36:53PM -0700, bear wrote: > > > If I'm a node in a web of trust (FOAF is a human), prestige will > > > percolate through it completely. That way I can color a whole > > > domain with a nonboolean trust hue, while a domain of fakers will > > > have only very few connecti

A National ID

2004-05-31 Thread R. A. Hettinga
The New York Times May 31, 2004 A National ID The very idea of a national identity card has always rankled Americans across the political spectrum. It conjures images of totalitarianism - Big Brother or even the G

Software Helps Rights Groups Protect Sensitive Information

2004-05-31 Thread R. A. Hettinga
The San Jose Mercury News Posted on Mon, May. 31, 2004 SOFTWARE HELPS RIGHTS GROUPS PROTECT SENSITIVE INFORMATION By Karl Schoenberger Mercury News A Palo Alto entrepreneur has come up with a te