Re: An overview of cryptographic protocols to prevent spam

2005-09-26 Thread Amir Herzberg
John Gilmore wrote: I wrote an overview of Cryptographic Protocols to Prevent Spam, I stopped reading on page V -- it was too painfully obvious that Amir has bought into the whole censorship-list based anti-spam mentality. John, I'm disappointed; I expected you to be more tolerant. You got mad

German CA TrustCenter insolvent

2005-09-26 Thread Stephan Neuhaus
Original article at http://www.heise.de/security/news/meldung/64224 It seems that the German TC TrustCenter GmbH (formerly TC TrustCenter AG) is now insolvent. TrustCenter was accredited to issue qualified signatures, which is what you need in Germany if you want your digital signature to be

Re: An overview of cryptographic protocols to prevent spam

2005-09-26 Thread John Gilmore
I wrote an overview of Cryptographic Protocols to Prevent Spam, I stopped reading on page V -- it was too painfully obvious that Amir has bought into the whole censorship-list based anti-spam mentality. It was hard to get from paragraph to paragraph without finding approving mentions of

Re: An overview of cryptographic protocols to prevent spam

2005-09-26 Thread Adam Shostack
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 09:28:19AM +0200, Amir Herzberg wrote: | John Gilmore wrote: | I wrote an overview of Cryptographic Protocols to Prevent Spam, | | I stopped reading on page V -- it was too painfully obvious that Amir | has bought into the whole censorship-list based anti-spam mentality.

Re: An overview of cryptographic protocols to prevent spam

2005-09-26 Thread Perry E. Metzger
One more comment note on spam... Perry E. Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm afraid that I use blacklists. My servers get about 30,000 spams and virii directed at me (that is me, Perry Metzger, personally) every night that are blocked by blacklists. I would be unable to write you this

Re: PKI too confusing to prevent phishing, part 28

2005-09-26 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 8:53 AM +0200 9/26/05, Amir Herzberg wrote: Is PKI the cause of this? I think not. This is a usability problem. We try to fix this problem (and similar problems) with TrustBar. Indeed we even had incidents where people on the TrustBar team itself, and some security experts using TrustBar,