Re: PKI too confusing to prevent phishing, part 28

2005-09-27 Thread John Levine
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=171200010 Summary: some phishes are going to SSL-secured sites that offer up their own self-signed cert. Users see the warning and say I've seen that dialog box before, no problem, and

Re: PKI too confusing to prevent phishing, part 28

2005-09-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jerrold Leichter writes: Talking about users as being able only to hold one bit continues an unfortunate attitude that, if only users weren't so dumb/careless/whatever, we wouldn't have all these security problems. This is an important point. When *many* people

Re: PKI too confusing to prevent phishing, part 28

2005-09-27 Thread Bill Frantz
On 9/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hoffman) wrote: http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=171200010 Summary: some phishes are going to SSL-secured sites that offer up their own self-signed cert. Users see the warning and say I've seen that dialog box before, no

continuity of identity

2005-09-27 Thread John Denker
Jerrold Leichter mentioned that: a self- signed cert is better than no cert at all: At least it can be used in an SSH-like continuity of identity scheme. I agree there is considerable merit to a continuity of identity scheme. But there are ways the idea can be improved. So let's discuss