Re: Can you help develop crypto anti-spoofing/phishing tool ?

2005-02-09 Thread Jerrold Leichter
| [1] This is also my solution to the famous trust paradox proposed by Ken | Thompson in his Reflections of Trusting Trust. Trust is earned, not | given. To trust Ken's code, I would first ask two or more programmers (who | I choose) to code the same function and submit their codes to tests. If

Re: Can you help develop crypto anti-spoofing/phishing tool ?

2005-02-09 Thread Ed Gerck
Jerrold Leichter wrote: N-version programming - which is what you are proposing here - can increase your level of trust against random errors[2], but its of no use at all against a deliberate attack. I heartly disagree. If the N-outputs are continuously verified for coherence, any difference

Re: Can you help develop crypto anti-spoofing/phishing tool ?

2005-02-08 Thread Ed Gerck
Amir Herzberg wrote: Ed Gerck responded to me: Can you trust what trustbar shows you? This trust translates to: -- Trusting the TrustBar code (which is open source so can be validated by tech-savvy users / sys-admin) -- Trusting that this code was not modified (same as for any other aspect of

Re: Can you help develop crypto anti-spoofing/phishing tool ?

2005-02-06 Thread Amir Herzberg
Ed Gerck responded to me: We develop TrustBar, a simple extension to FireFox ( Mozilla), that displays the name and logo of SSL protected sites, as well as of the CA (so users can notice the use of untrusted CA). I think it is fair to say that this extension fixes some glitches in the

Re: Can you help develop crypto anti-spoofing/phishing tool ?

2005-02-04 Thread Amir Herzberg
Daniel Carosone responded to me: We develop TrustBar, a simple extension to FireFox ( Mozilla), that displays the name and logo of SSL protected sites, as well as of the CA (so users can notice the use of untrusted CA). Other merits of the idea aside, if the user knows the CA is untrusted,

Re: Can you help develop crypto anti-spoofing/phishing tool ?

2005-02-04 Thread Ian G
Michael H. Warfield wrote What Amir and Ahmad are looking at is showing the CA as part of the trust equation when the user hits a site. Some CAs will enter the user's consciousness via normal branding methods, and new ones will trigger care caution. Which is what we want - if something strange

Can you help develop crypto anti-spoofing/phishing tool ?

2005-02-02 Thread Amir Herzberg
We develop TrustBar, a simple extension to FireFox ( Mozilla), that displays the name and logo of SSL protected sites, as well as of the CA (so users can notice the use of untrusted CA). I think it is fair to say that this extension fixes some glitches in the deployment of SSL/TLS, i.e. in the