RE: OpenSSL PKCS #7 supports AES SHA-2 ?
Read RFC4055 for RSA with various hashes, OAEP, and PSS combinations. - Tolga -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Alten Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:47 AM To: Russ Housley; cryptography@metzdowd.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OpenSSL PKCS #7 supports AES SHA-2 ? Russ, OK. I found SHA-2 in RFC 4634 (only 3 months old), which refers back to FIPS 180-2. But I reach a dead-end with PKCS #7 (now RFC 3852). There's no support for SHA-2 algorithm types (RFC 3279). Also PKCS #1 (now RFC 3447) needs an update for SHA-2 with RSA encryption (OIDs, etc.). Did I miss something or do you need help in updating these, since I, and probably others too, need them? - Alex At 01:19 PM 10/9/2006 -0400, Russ Housley wrote: PKCS#7 has been turned over to the IETF for maintenance. The most recent version is RFC 3852. Since the protocol is more stable than the cryptographic algorithms, the algorithm discussion appear in separate RFCs. TLS 1.2 is under development in the IETF. It is being done in such a way that none of the ciphersuites that have already been defined need to be updated, including the ones that use AES and the SHA-2 family. Russ At 01:28 AM 10/7/2006, Alex Alten wrote: After reading PKCS #1 v2 more closely and SHA-2 is not even in the specs, therefore OpenSSL PKCS #7 functions won't support SHA-2. This spec was last updated in 1998. PKCS Editor, is there a new update in progress by RSA Labs to incorporate SHA-2 and AES? Does OpenSSL implement PKCS #1 v2 or just v1.5? If the latter then not even SHA-1 is supported. PKCS editor, is there any timeline as to when PKCS #7 will then be updated with references to official OIDs, etc., for specifying SHA-2 and AES? Dr. Ron Rivest, are you going to publish new message-digest IETF RFCs for SHA-1 and SHA-2? (So that they can be referenced by an updated PKCS #7.) Mr. Russ Housley, can you weigh in with what happening in the IETF WG security area? I know that Mr. Eric Rescorla is working on a new TLS v1.2 draft. Will this be done/ratified soon? I assume OpenSSL will incorporate this soon thereafter? This mess with the MD5 and SHA-1 hashes is really starting to becoming a problem. It's certainly impacting new development projects/products I'm involved with using SSL and PKI certificates. My customers are concerned about using MD5 and SHA-1, and they don't want to keep paying for implementations repeatedly as the standards catch up to reality. Updating these various heavily used standards quickly is quite important. Sincerely (and thanks in advance for all of your replies), - Alex At 09:05 AM 10/6/2006 -0700, Alex Alten wrote: Does anyone know if the OpenSSL PKCS #7 functions support AES and SHA-2? (I assuming OpenSSL 0.9.7 or later.) Thanks, - Alex -- Alex Alten Alten Security Engineering, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenSSL PKCS #7 supports AES SHA-2 ?
Russ, OK. I found SHA-2 in RFC 4634 (only 3 months old), which refers back to FIPS 180-2. But I reach a dead-end with PKCS #7 (now RFC 3852). There's no support for SHA-2 algorithm types (RFC 3279). Also PKCS #1 (now RFC 3447) needs an update for SHA-2 with RSA encryption (OIDs, etc.). Did I miss something or do you need help in updating these, since I, and probably others too, need them? - Alex At 01:19 PM 10/9/2006 -0400, Russ Housley wrote: PKCS#7 has been turned over to the IETF for maintenance. The most recent version is RFC 3852. Since the protocol is more stable than the cryptographic algorithms, the algorithm discussion appear in separate RFCs. TLS 1.2 is under development in the IETF. It is being done in such a way that none of the ciphersuites that have already been defined need to be updated, including the ones that use AES and the SHA-2 family. Russ At 01:28 AM 10/7/2006, Alex Alten wrote: After reading PKCS #1 v2 more closely and SHA-2 is not even in the specs, therefore OpenSSL PKCS #7 functions won't support SHA-2. This spec was last updated in 1998. PKCS Editor, is there a new update in progress by RSA Labs to incorporate SHA-2 and AES? Does OpenSSL implement PKCS #1 v2 or just v1.5? If the latter then not even SHA-1 is supported. PKCS editor, is there any timeline as to when PKCS #7 will then be updated with references to official OIDs, etc., for specifying SHA-2 and AES? Dr. Ron Rivest, are you going to publish new message-digest IETF RFCs for SHA-1 and SHA-2? (So that they can be referenced by an updated PKCS #7.) Mr. Russ Housley, can you weigh in with what happening in the IETF WG security area? I know that Mr. Eric Rescorla is working on a new TLS v1.2 draft. Will this be done/ratified soon? I assume OpenSSL will incorporate this soon thereafter? This mess with the MD5 and SHA-1 hashes is really starting to becoming a problem. It's certainly impacting new development projects/products I'm involved with using SSL and PKI certificates. My customers are concerned about using MD5 and SHA-1, and they don't want to keep paying for implementations repeatedly as the standards catch up to reality. Updating these various heavily used standards quickly is quite important. Sincerely (and thanks in advance for all of your replies), - Alex At 09:05 AM 10/6/2006 -0700, Alex Alten wrote: Does anyone know if the OpenSSL PKCS #7 functions support AES and SHA-2? (I assuming OpenSSL 0.9.7 or later.) Thanks, - Alex -- Alex Alten Alten Security Engineering, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OpenSSL PKCS #7 supports AES SHA-2 ?
PKCS#7 has been superseded by the IETF's Cryptographic Message Syntax, CMS. You should check within the S/MIME working group for updates. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Alten Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:29 AM To: cryptography@metzdowd.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OpenSSL PKCS #7 supports AES SHA-2 ? After reading PKCS #1 v2 more closely and SHA-2 is not even in the specs, therefore OpenSSL PKCS #7 functions won't support SHA-2. This spec was last updated in 1998. PKCS Editor, is there a new update in progress by RSA Labs to incorporate SHA-2 and AES? Does OpenSSL implement PKCS #1 v2 or just v1.5? If the latter then not even SHA-1 is supported. PKCS editor, is there any timeline as to when PKCS #7 will then be updated with references to official OIDs, etc., for specifying SHA-2 and AES? Dr. Ron Rivest, are you going to publish new message-digest IETF RFCs for SHA-1 and SHA-2? (So that they can be referenced by an updated PKCS #7.) Mr. Russ Housley, can you weigh in with what happening in the IETF WG security area? I know that Mr. Eric Rescorla is working on a new TLS v1.2 draft. Will this be done/ratified soon? I assume OpenSSL will incorporate this soon thereafter? This mess with the MD5 and SHA-1 hashes is really starting to becoming a problem. It's certainly impacting new development projects/products I'm involved with using SSL and PKI certificates. My customers are concerned about using MD5 and SHA-1, and they don't want to keep paying for implementations repeatedly as the standards catch up to reality. Updating these various heavily used standards quickly is quite important. Sincerely (and thanks in advance for all of your replies), - Alex At 09:05 AM 10/6/2006 -0700, Alex Alten wrote: Does anyone know if the OpenSSL PKCS #7 functions support AES and SHA-2? (I assuming OpenSSL 0.9.7 or later.) Thanks, - Alex - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenSSL PKCS #7 supports AES SHA-2 ?
After reading PKCS #1 v2 more closely and SHA-2 is not even in the specs, therefore OpenSSL PKCS #7 functions won't support SHA-2. This spec was last updated in 1998. PKCS Editor, is there a new update in progress by RSA Labs to incorporate SHA-2 and AES? Does OpenSSL implement PKCS #1 v2 or just v1.5? If the latter then not even SHA-1 is supported. PKCS editor, is there any timeline as to when PKCS #7 will then be updated with references to official OIDs, etc., for specifying SHA-2 and AES? Dr. Ron Rivest, are you going to publish new message-digest IETF RFCs for SHA-1 and SHA-2? (So that they can be referenced by an updated PKCS #7.) Mr. Russ Housley, can you weigh in with what happening in the IETF WG security area? I know that Mr. Eric Rescorla is working on a new TLS v1.2 draft. Will this be done/ratified soon? I assume OpenSSL will incorporate this soon thereafter? This mess with the MD5 and SHA-1 hashes is really starting to becoming a problem. It's certainly impacting new development projects/products I'm involved with using SSL and PKI certificates. My customers are concerned about using MD5 and SHA-1, and they don't want to keep paying for implementations repeatedly as the standards catch up to reality. Updating these various heavily used standards quickly is quite important. Sincerely (and thanks in advance for all of your replies), - Alex At 09:05 AM 10/6/2006 -0700, Alex Alten wrote: Does anyone know if the OpenSSL PKCS #7 functions support AES and SHA-2? (I assuming OpenSSL 0.9.7 or later.) Thanks, - Alex - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
