Re: English 19-year-old jailed for refusal to disclose decryption key

2010-10-08 Thread Jerry Leichter
On Oct 7, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Bernie Cosell wrote: a 19-year-old just got a 16-month jail sentence for his refusal to disclose the password that would have allowed investigators to see what was on his hard drive. What about http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=plausible-deniability Could this be

Re: English 19-year-old jailed for refusal to disclose decryption key

2010-10-08 Thread Samuel Weiler
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Nicolas Williams wrote: If decryption results in plaintext much shorter than the ciphertext -much shorter than can be explained by the presence of a MAC- then it'd be fair to assume that you're pulling this trick. Not to argue with your overall point re: crypto not

Re: English 19-year-old jailed for refusal to disclose decryption key

2010-10-07 Thread Christoph Gruber
Am 06.10.2010 um 22:57 schrieb Marsh Ray: On 10/06/2010 01:57 PM, Ray Dillinger wrote: a 19-year-old just got a 16-month jail sentence for his refusal to disclose the password that would have allowed investigators to see what was on his hard drive. I am thankful to not be an English

Re: English 19-year-old jailed for refusal to disclose decryption key

2010-10-07 Thread Jerry Leichter
On Oct 7, 2010, at 4:14 AM, Christoph Gruber gr...@guru.at wrote: a 19-year-old just got a 16-month jail sentence for his refusal to disclose the password that would have allowed investigators to see what was on his hard drive. What about

Re: English 19-year-old jailed for refusal to disclose decryption key

2010-10-07 Thread Bernie Cosell
On 7 Oct 2010 at 12:05, Jerry Leichter wrote: On Oct 7, 2010, at 4:14 AM, Christoph Gruber gr...@guru.at wrote: a 19-year-old just got a 16-month jail sentence for his refusal to disclose the password that would have allowed investigators to see what was on his hard drive. What about

Re: English 19-year-old jailed for refusal to disclose decryption key

2010-10-07 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 01:10:12PM -0400, Bernie Cosell wrote: I think you're not getting the trick here: with truecrypt's plausible deniability hack you *CAN* give them the password and they *CAN* decrypt the file [or filesystem]. BUT: it is a double encryption setup. If you use one

Re: English 19-year-old jailed for refusal to disclose decryption key

2010-10-07 Thread Marsh Ray
On 10/07/2010 12:10 PM, Bernie Cosell wrote: There's no way to tell if you used the first password that you didn't decrypt everything. Is there a way to prove that you did? If yes, your jailers may say We know you have more self-incriminating evidence there. Your imprisonment will continue

Re: English 19-year-old jailed for refusal to disclose decryption key

2010-10-06 Thread Marsh Ray
On 10/06/2010 01:57 PM, Ray Dillinger wrote: a 19-year-old just got a 16-month jail sentence for his refusal to disclose the password that would have allowed investigators to see what was on his hard drive. I am thankful to not be an English subject. I suppose that, if the authorities could

Re: English 19-year-old jailed for refusal to disclose decryption key

2010-10-06 Thread Ben Laurie
On 6 October 2010 11:57, Ray Dillinger b...@sonic.net wrote: a 19-year-old just got a 16-month jail sentence for his refusal to disclose the password that would have allowed investigators to see what was on his hard drive. 16 weeks, says the article.

Re: English 19-year-old jailed for refusal to disclose decryption key

2010-10-06 Thread Joss Wright
On 06/10/10 19:57, Ray Dillinger wrote: a 19-year-old just got a 16-month jail sentence for his refusal to disclose the password that would have allowed investigators to see what was on his hard drive. Just to correct this: the sentence was 16 weeks, not 16 months. The legislation in

Re: English 19-year-old jailed for refusal to disclose decryption key

2010-10-06 Thread Arshad Noor
On 10/06/2010 03:55 PM, Joss Wright wrote: The .. Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act of 2000 (RIPA), .. allows for a maximum sentence of two years for refusing a request that encrypted data be put into an intelligible form. Five years, if a national security or child indecency case.

Re: English 19-year-old jailed for refusal to disclose decryption key

2010-10-06 Thread silky
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Ray Dillinger b...@sonic.net wrote: a 19-year-old just got a 16-month jail sentence for his refusal to disclose the password that would have allowed investigators to see what was on his hard drive. I suppose that, if the authorities could not read his stuff