Re: Spy/Counterspy

2010-07-11 Thread Christoph Gruber
-- Christoph Gruber If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy. Phil Zimmermann Am 10.07.2010 um 12:57 schrieb Jerry Leichter leich...@lrw.com: On Jul 9, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Pawel wrote: Hi, On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:38 AM, Peter Gutmann (alt) pgut001.reflec...@gmail.com

Re: Spy/Counterspy

2010-07-11 Thread Ben Laurie
On 10 July 2010 11:57, Jerry Leichter leich...@lrw.com wrote: Beyond simple hacking - someone is quoted saying You can consider GPS a little like computers before the first virus - if I had stood here before then and cried about the risks, you would've asked 'why would anyone bother?'. - among

Re: Spy/Counterspy

2010-07-11 Thread Jerry Leichter
On Jul 11, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Ben Laurie wrote: Beyond simple hacking - someone is quoted saying You can consider GPS a little like computers before the first virus - if I had stood here before then and cried about the risks, you would've asked 'why would anyone bother?'. - among the

Location services risks (was: Re: Spy/Counterspy)

2010-07-11 Thread John Ioannidis
Location-based services are already being used for dating services (big surprise here). Mobiles send their location to a server, the server figures out who is near whom, and matches them. There are lots of variants on that. An obvious risk here is that the server is acting as a location

Re: Spy/Counterspy

2010-07-10 Thread Jerry Leichter
On Jul 9, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Pawel wrote: Hi, On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:38 AM, Peter Gutmann (alt) pgut001.reflec...@gmail.com wrote: GPS tracking units that you can fit to your car to track where your kids are taking it [T]he sorts of places that'll sell you card skimmers and RFID

Re: Spy/Counterspy

2010-07-09 Thread Pawel
Hi, On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:38 AM, Peter Gutmann (alt) pgut001.reflec...@gmail.com wrote: GPS tracking units that you can fit to your car to track where your kids are taking it (or *cough* other purposes) have been around for awhile now. It's interesting to see that recently the sorts of