Re: gang uses crypto to hide identity theft databases

2006-12-26 Thread Travis H.
On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 11:10:40PM +, Rick van Rein wrote: This is not =entirely= true. A key stored in the same (non-swappable) location for a long time will burn into the memory. (I know that I am reacting beside the point of your story, to which I agree.) Pimpin' Peters Papers:

Re: gang uses crypto to hide identity theft databases

2006-12-25 Thread Rick van Rein
John wrote: Once something is gone from RAM, it's really, really gone. The circuit structure and the laws of thermodynamics ensure it. No power on earth can do anything about that. This is not =entirely= true. A key stored in the same (non-swappable) location for a long time will burn into

Re: gang uses crypto to hide identity theft databases

2006-12-24 Thread John Denker
On 12/22/2006 01:57 PM, Alex Alten wrote: I'm curious as to why the cops didn't just pull the plugs right away. Because that would be a Bad Idea. In a halfway-well-designed system, cutting the power would just do the secret-keepers' job for them. It would probably take a while (minutes,

Re: gang uses crypto to hide identity theft databases

2006-12-24 Thread David I. Emery
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 10:57:17AM -0800, Alex Alten wrote: I'm curious as to why the cops didn't just pull the plugs right away. It would probably take a while (minutes, hours?) to encrypt any significant amount of data. At the risk of stating the obvious, this is almost certainly

Re: gang uses crypto to hide identity theft databases

2006-12-22 Thread Peter Gutmann
Jim Gellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well this just sucks if you ask me. According to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), which confirmed that Kostap had activated the encryption after being arrested, it would have taken 400 computers twelve years to crack the code. Scales linearly, right?

Re: gang uses crypto to hide identity theft databases

2006-12-22 Thread Alex Alten
I'm curious as to why the cops didn't just pull the plugs right away. It would probably take a while (minutes, hours?) to encrypt any significant amount of data. Not to mention, where is the master key? The guy couldn't have jumped up and typed in a pass phrase to generate it in handcuffs?

Re: gang uses crypto to hide identity theft databases

2006-12-21 Thread Jim Gellman
Well this just sucks if you ask me. According to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), which confirmed that Kostap had activated the encryption after being arrested, it would have taken 400 computers twelve years to crack the code. Scales linearly, right? 4,800 computers'll get it in a year?